USA Riots

[CoupeKing]

Now in some of the towns that were lit or looted, they want police funding to be cut or abolished altogether.

So they try and put the blame on Trump and think they could storm the White House - good luck.

[PhilT2]

Seems the cops over there can find ways to get funds; simply steal them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH3bUG2awJg

[naddis01]

Surely the whole issue is police brutality rather than black vs white?

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Same sources as the Pizza Shop story ?

https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/george...s-union-chief/

https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytQaMDkuuU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fij8TP0FE00

I don't know. You tell me. It did not take much effort to find these...

[oldel]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Surely the whole issue is police brutality rather than black vs white?

It's turned into that. People protesting about police brutality have been met with police brutality.
They've really shone the light on how violent and unchecked the police are over there. Also shone the light on how huge the police budget is and how horrible the police unions and organizations are.
Funny how so many are hiding or removing their badges - without realising it makes them look like the thugs they are and forgetting it's only with that badge they have the power granted to them.

[falcon_bandit]

Last days - Body Count (1997)
https://youtu.be/GcxrM9A6Xjg

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by oldel

It's turned into that. People protesting about police brutality have been met with police brutality.
They've really shone the light on how violent and unchecked the police are over there. Also shone the light on how huge the police budget is and how horrible the police unions and organizations are.
Funny how so many are hiding or removing their badges - without realising it makes them look like the thugs they are and forgetting it's only with that badge they have the power granted to them.

Do you blame them. Why are the media being selective on what they are reporting, by making out these ‘protests’ are peaceful and the cops are using excessive force...

White women in wheel chair attacked.

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...52192476/?vh=e

Rioters burn white homeless mans possessions.

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...927562753560/?

Old white man carjacked and beaten in street.

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...794493038512/?

White journos attacked

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...663430960350/?

More white people set on by violent mob of blacks

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...869592182020/?

White man attacked attempting to protect his store

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...33605682/?vh=e

Old white couple attacked in street.

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...66985092/?vh=e

Old white store owners attacked trying to protect their business

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...80323104/?vh=e

White man king hit and set in by blacks

https://www.facebook.com/10148790148...06990088/?vh=e

These are ones I’ve seen that are public and haven’t yet been deleted by FB.

No doubt these black mobs would rather deal with the cops and easy targets above in blue states than the huge silent majority of armed conservative whites who are watching this and probably planning ahead - gun sales skyrocketed earlier in the week.
The liberals have just crushed any hope and justification for gun control by encouraging and supporting this chaos.

[marty351]

Hillary....


Hilliraaayyyy.......

[oldel]

Originally Posted by smoo

Do you blame them. Why are the media being selective on what they are reporting, by making out these ‘protests’ are peaceful and the cops are using excessive force...

white, black, liberals, gun control blah blah tells me you are missing the point.
Police violence is sky high and that was all I was saying - and they seem to be nowhere near the vids you posted, they are off attacking protesters - plenty of white people have been attacked by cops.
It's not a colour issue any more, its a police brutality and abuse of powers issue now was my point.

E: Stop being brainwashed, no one with an open mind and a filter would ever type liberals because the conservative party in Australia is the liberal party. No one would say hillary either, because who here would care? People that type those things obviously don't have a filter and are repeating garbage they see/read.
Everything in that vid I posted I've already seen live on various streams as I've been following this all week, so it wasn't the first time I'd seen it. I thought it was a good take on it because the guy and his writers are pretty good, and previously I had the opinion of "screw the looters and violent people, but the peaceful protests are good".

But yeah, to me what he said rang true, the old divide and conquer, plus justify all force by concentrating on the small percentage of the bad. So screw all media that just mentioning the looting.
Most probably don't have the attention span to watch it all and learn, but he does say screw obama and biden too.

The cops are rioting because their ability to operate with impunity is being challenged.

[smoo]

Too right it is about race. If the cop was black or the dead offender white, none of this would be going on. It may have made local news within the jurisdiction and that is it.
That is not the case and the media, black lives matter and other emotionally driven anti government anti authority protestors have capitalised on it. Police brutality or perceived brutality has been one scapegoat and justification to carry out these acts of violence and destruction.
If police violence is sky high, why?
There is not one blanket answer. But take a look at the scum they have to deal with and within the circumstances. LA mayor is looking at cutting $150 million of funding in the police budget. We’ll see how that plays out hey.

You know what isn’t near the vids I linked? The media. I’d have thought old people (regardless of race) being attacked in the streets in a first world country firstly for being white and secondly for protecting their property should make headline news around the world. There goes that selective reporting and controlling what the masses see.

I’m not referring to the Liberal Party, I’m referring to the political left in the USA pushing for gun control and the abandonment of the second amendment. Yet they’ve actively encouraged and vaguely justified what is going on. State and federal authorities have failed to protect innocent people, private businesses and property. A huge percentage of the population will be armed to the teeth and ready to spill blood.

[burnz]

there's a lot of work to be done in that country,
cops do kill a lot where it could be stun gun.
more white die from the police but the black blame the white, media race baiting.
even these protest were because the Asian cops killed a back thug, and blame whites,
again media race baiting..

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by oldel

It's turned into that. People protesting about police brutality have been met with police brutality.

What I was hinting at was, why was it ever about colour? The first news report I saw about it specifically said that a black man has been pinned down and killed by a white policeman. It struck me as odd and I thought to myself, here we go. I bet if it was the other way around their skin colour wouldn't have been mentioned. If it was reported here at all.

[CoupeKing]

Language warning.

[smoo]

Here you go odel some progress for you...
care to come back in 12 or 24 months time and see the negative effect that unintended consequences this will bring.
At the least you have to feel sorry for the productive members of Minneapolis who run small business and own their homes.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...epartment/amp/

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Language warning.

Of course - people only care when it effects the West.

Same with when we heard about COVID-19 - initially no one really cared when it was effecting China, until it started killing Europeans, then it was like - oh no not the Europeans! We should do something about this.

[superyob]

People only care about Indigenous deaths ‘if there’s a white perpetrator’: Jacinta Price...

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6162207311001

[LG17]

Originally Posted by superyob

People only care about Indigenous deaths ‘if there’s a white perpetrator’: Jacinta Price...

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6162207311001

There's never been much mention at all of the tribal wars and murders throughout history. It's almost as though it doesn't fit an agenda... ;)

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by superyob

People only care about Indigenous deaths ‘if there’s a white perpetrator’: Jacinta Price...

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6162207311001

That 'passionate feminist group' they're talking about is 'Mad ****ing Witches' on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/MadFckingWitch

They're lunatics going out on the offense on the regular.

[jaydee]

Now it's just getting silly,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-protest.html
Why not lick their feet, come on, give me a break, how is this really a sign of equality or addressing inequality.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Now it's just getting silly,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-protest.html
Why not lick their feet, come on, give me a break, how is this really a sign of equality or addressing inequality.

They've probably got foot fetishes and are getting their rocks off

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Now it's just getting silly

It was always silly it's just getting worse...

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

They've probably got foot fetishes and are getting their rocks off

You say it like it's a bad thing!

[PhilT2]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Now it's just getting silly,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-protest.html
Why not lick their feet, come on, give me a break, how is this really a sign of equality or addressing inequality.

Foot washing is an old religious tradition that goes back at least 800 years; got nothing to do with equality or the current protests at all.

Religion getting silly; no, always been that way.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

Foot washing is an old religious tradition that goes back at least 800 years; got nothing to do with equality or the current protests at all.

Please stop with the facts.

It doesn't fit an agenda... ;)

[CoupeKing]

[russellw]

Following on from the cause of death statistics we looked at yesterday, here are some more facts from that data.

The national US average for deaths from heart disease is 165 / 100k but males are 61% more likely to die from it than females. Whites are almost exactly on that average (164.4) but blacks are 23% higher (202.4) while American Indians, Hispanics and Latinos are ~30% lower and Asians are almost half that rate (85.4).

Likewise, the national US average for deaths from cancer is 152.5 / 100k but males are 30% more likely to die from it than females. Whites are almost exactly on that average (153.7) but blacks are 12% higher (172.8) while American Indians, Hispanics and Latinos are ~35% lower and Asians are almost 40% of that rate (85.4).

The national US average for deaths from Influenza / Pneumonia is 14.3 / 100k but males are (again) 30% more likely to die from it than females. Whites are almost exactly on that average (14.2) and blacks are only fractionally higher (14.9) while American Indians and Asians are ~10% lower and Hispanic / Latino races are almost 20% lower (11.3).

Blacks also don't fare well with Diabetes (80% higher than the average and 91% higher than whites).

Perhaps better health care would be a good start?

In fact, about the only causes of death that black are lower in are:

Chronic lower respiratory disease where the white rate is 45 and blacks 29.4, 28% lower than the national average of 40.9/100k and 33% lower than whites. Interestingly, the rate for Asia Pacific races (11.9) is 70% lower than the average.

Liver disease where the national average is 10.9/100k. Whites are a bit higher at 11.7 and blacks 33% lower than the average at 7.3/100k and 38% lower than whites. Men are also almost twice as likely to die from it than women and for some reason American Indians have 2.5x the national average at 23.6/100k and even Hispanic/Latino races are 31% higher.

Alzheimer's where the national average is 31.0/100k and whites are near that (32.3) with blacks 10% lower than the average and 14% lower than whites.

As an (unrelated) aside, the only cause of death where women do worse than men in the US national averages is Alzheimer's where their rate is 27% higher.

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

Foot washing is an old religious tradition that goes back at least 800 years; got nothing to do with equality or the current protests at all.

Religion getting silly; no, always been that way.

They had floggings, hangings and being burnt at the stake as well back then.
No room for these archaic rituals in this situation.

[PhilT2]

Originally Posted by russellw

In fact, about the only causes of death that black are lower in are:.

Didn't the graph you put up yesterday show suicide rate lower in black populations? I am a bit sceptical of that figure because many of the factors that influence suicide rates eg unemployment, relationship breakups, financial difficulties are higher in black communities. Just a quick search didn't bring up any good research to explain the discrepancy.

Post war growth in the US was segregated by law. Black housing was always located in the less desirable areas closest to industrial sources of air and water pollution. So every generation grew up with lung issues. The lead pollution tn the water supply in Flint, Michigan means a new generation is disadvantaged from childhood.

[PhilT2]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Please stop with the facts.

It doesn't fit an agenda... ;)

Sorry, from now on I'll be careful to only tell you what you want to hear.

Should I start calling myself Fox News?

[oldel]

Originally Posted by smoo

Too right it is about race. If the cop was black or the dead offender white, none of this would be going on. It may have made local news within the jurisdiction and that is it.
That is not the case and the media, black lives matter and other emotionally driven anti government anti authority protestors have capitalised on it. Police brutality or perceived brutality has been one scapegoat and justification to carry out these acts of violence and destruction.
If police violence is sky high, why?
There is not one blanket answer. But take a look at the scum they have to deal with and within the circumstances. LA mayor is looking at cutting $150 million of funding in the police budget. We’ll see how that plays out hey.

You know what isn’t near the vids I linked? The media. I’d have thought old people (regardless of race) being attacked in the streets in a first world country firstly for being white and secondly for protecting their property should make headline news around the world. There goes that selective reporting and controlling what the masses see.

I’m not referring to the Liberal Party, I’m referring to the political left in the USA pushing for gun control and the abandonment of the second amendment. Yet they’ve actively encouraged and vaguely justified what is going on. State and federal authorities have failed to protect innocent people, private businesses and property. A huge percentage of the population will be armed to the teeth and ready to spill blood.

E: It's hilarious now that many of us comfortable at home watch cop dramas just for entertainment which are full of corruption and we're OK with it and it's become the norm to expect it in real life but us comfortable people would do nothing about it. Heres some people protesting the real **** because they've had enough!

The catalyst was race - blacks being killed by police, but the momentum is police brutality. I chose to say nothing about race because I'm not american or black. But you keep mentioning it is only about that. You can show 30 vids and someone who wants to take you on about race can show 300 years worth of black victims, so don't make that your point just like I'm trying not to.
I've sat back and only responded to call out police brutality during the past few days of mostly peaceful protest.
Yeah, people on the wrong side of all this will be saying what you're saying now. Probably a lost cause.... Seems like the rest of the world is joining in protest after all while you're pearl clutching in some kind of Marie Antionette 'the blacks are getting uppity and revolting' standpoint.

No idea why you'd link videos like the woman in a wheel chair going out and stabbing anyone who's black to prove your point, or the homeless guy and the guy on the street which said racist **** and got hit.

There's obviously some I don't approve of, but to get people to riot they've obviously got to be red hot angry and some people do regrettable things (plenty of white people looting and being violent too).


"And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? ... It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.” MLK Jnr

And what I was saying before is if you're only looking at some 30 vids of when some black people did bad things and forget when cops have done bad things entirely then the authorities will use that as cause to crack down on the innocent protestors - so don't do it.

If you know history you know all about the targeting of Asians in 92, some of them have come out to say they understood that and understand now. I remember seeing a restaurant burn recently and the owner said who cares, fcuk the pigs. Stuff has got really bad with the cops there over the past decade, it's been building up. Ha even the people that were identifiable from ferguson have been suicided by cops since - that's bull****. Cops are playing execucioner. They're dirty violent corrupt murderous thugs and the world is seeing it.

There's black cops and national guards, there's white protestors but you try to make it out like it's black vs white. It's about police brutality now. There's even vidoes out there with boogaloo boys showing up to watch and then getting attacked by police and switching sides. There's conservatives and religous republicans saying enough is enough, cops need a tighter leash because they are acting outrageously.

Its about **** the violent police thugs now, Even my kids hero Tony Hawk called in and said fire the LA chief and de-fund the police