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Old 15-01-2010, 07:29 AM   #1
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Something doesn't ring true here?... 3 points and $245 for 10ks over??
He was caught on Oct 1st and didn't receive until Mid November?
AND.. This doozy.. "On this occasion I was very lucky - I didn't drift into a tree, I got snapped (by a speed camera)."...
He didn't even know he'd been bloody snapped until 6 weeks later.. How would THAT that stop him drifting into a tree??

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Old 15-01-2010, 07:40 AM   #2
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Hes just a puppet for the revenue hungry Government. He is proof that we are only human no matter how high up you are.
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Agree 100% Joolz.
Charllie, you're absolutely right too, how on earth did finding out 6 weeks after the event save him from drifting into a tree 6 weeks prior? Did this guy invent time travel or something?
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What we hear and what happened are two different things, remember there are two sets of rules!

I can'r believe he didn't kill 100's of children driving at that highly excessive and dangerous speed. We need to thank the government for saving us with these 'safety cameras'.........
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What a weird statement for doing 10k's over...

Perhaps they weren't going to send him one but decided to for the publicity which is why it took so long? Or maybe they are just having a very tough time with all the new speed camera's theyre planting everywhere
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Yes but WHY $245 and 3 points??... I'm sure it's only 130 odd and ONE point for 10ks?
(Maybe they double depending on your rank?)
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And what have we all learned from this?................watch out for speed camera's when travelling up to Heathcote from Melbourne, thats about all.
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Apologies.. I'm wrong... "Exceeding the speed limit by 10km/h or more but less than 25km/h = 3points
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So Mr Lay, it was a mistake was it? Well I'm sorry but when you are Victoria's top traffic cop a "mistake" of 10k over the limit is a mistake you can ill afford.

Had a Police Officer been there with a radar gun you would have woken up to what you were doing and driven at the speed limit, but no. You had to wait 6 whole weeks until you received your fine so that's 6 whole weeks of being a dangerous menace to society. How many innocent children did you kill in that time you evil anti-social menace Mr Lay?

Well if you believe your drivel this is what would have happened being 10 over the limit, but it didn't did it? No one died and you didn't know until a long time after the fact.

Quite a pointless way of ensuring road "safety" isn't it.
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Thanks to our glorious Chairman for saving 5 children that day. Hazaar!
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"Lots of people die in exactly those kinds of circumstances."

PFFFT.

At least he admitted he was speeding, and didn't try to claim someone else was driving.
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call me a cynic, but if it was a cop with a radar rather than a speed camera would he have even been booked? is it possible he has done quite a bit of speeding in the last 35 years but been let of each time with a warning?
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With a statement like that you wonder how he can condone police pursuits.
No such thing as safe speeding.
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call me a cynic, but if it was a cop with a radar rather than a speed camera would he have even been booked? is it possible he has done quite a bit of speeding in the last 35 years but been let of each time with a warning?
I think you miss the point.
Re read RG's post a couple above. He makes the point clear.
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I think you miss the point.
Re read RG's post a couple above. He makes the point clear.
i understand his point. i was just wondering if a highway patrol officer would write a ticket for the deputy commissioner.
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Ticket or no ticket, at least he is made aware at the time that he is speeding, not 6 weeks later.
That is the point you have missed.
I think he would get a ticket, especially because he is the top cop.
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Ticket or no ticket, at least he is made aware at the time that he is speeding, not 6 weeks later.
That is the point you have missed.
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Now it comes to light that he kept this under wraps in order to not undermine the Christmas Campaign.

I call that as rubbish, he was just trying to keep it quiet and has been found out. Should have come clean asap.
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I don't know if "silly" is strong enough for the potential carnage he could have caused. Hoons like this are always sorry after the event. Every k over is a killer, but this daredevil was travelling at 114% of the speed limit and twice the speed of a school zone.
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made aware at the time that he is speeding, not 6 weeks later.
Yup, I think it would be better for road safety and I think people would rather get pulled up by a real cop in a real car, at least they can pull you up after the alleged offense and go through what was done wrong. What good does a fine do in the mail weeks after the infringement? What happens to a possible loony driver in the meantime?

Most cops are quite reasonable and wouldn't be as harsh as an electronic camera if they see the attitude and severity of the driver they caught.
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Agree 100% Joolz.
Charllie, you're absolutely right too, how on earth did finding out 6 weeks after the event save him from drifting into a tree 6 weeks prior? Did this guy invent time travel or something?
He was going 88mp/h.
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call me a cynic, but if it was a cop with a radar rather than a speed camera would he have even been booked? is it possible he has done quite a bit of speeding in the last 35 years but been let of each time with a warning?
I'd rather he be pulled up and let off because we all know if you go over the speed limit the chances of killing innocent people increases one billion percent

I'm sure it would be comforting for the family of the people he had the potential of killing that he got a fine 200 meters back up the road.
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He was going 88mp/h.

Where on earth did he get the plutonium to make the 1.21 gigawatts?
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I'd rather he be pulled up and let off because we all know if you go over the speed limit the chances of killing innocent people increases one billion percent

I'm sure it would be comforting for the family of the people he had the potential of killing that he got a fine 200 meters back up the road.

"He was like a crazed maniac with a shotgun just shooting off into the air"

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evil man he is.
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At least he admitted he was speeding, and didn't try to claim someone else was driving.
Only admitted because it has come out.
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What else concerns me as well as the obvious that has already been well and truly addressed in this thread, is the sheer fact that by his own admision that he is a bit shaky when travelling at 80 in a 70 zone, by publicly stating that he actually believes that "he could have slid into a tree" from I am guessing was such a dangerous act!

I don't know the section of road in question but really, finding out that he was snapped at 80 in a 70 and now his confidence in his driving abilities is now shot! Comon, is this a joke???

If he now thinks that 10 over any limit (whether it be 20 in 10 Zone if there was such a thing or 110 in a 100 zone) means that he might slide into tree as a consequence, well I certainly have no confidence in his driving ability now if he doesn’t either! I would hate be an oncoming motorist to him if he is 10 kph over the sign posted limit that’s for sure.

Don’t get me wrong I don’t condone excessive speeding either but no wonder rational people dismiss the current system so easily these days with comments like that.
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What else concerns me as well as the obvious that has already been well and truly addressed in this thread, is the sheer fact that by his own admision that he is a bit shaky when travelling at 80 in a 70 zone, by publicly stating that he actually believes that "he could have slid into a tree" from I am guessing was such a dangerous act!

I don't know the section of road in question but really, finding out that he was snapped at 80 in a 70 and now his confidence in his driving abilities is now shot! Comon, is this a joke???

If he now thinks that 10 over any limit (whether it be 20 in 10 Zone if there was such a thing or 110 in a 100 zone) means that he might slide into tree as a consequence, well I certainly have no confidence in his driving ability now if he doesn’t either! I would hate be an oncoming motorist to him if he is 10 kph over the sign posted limit that’s for sure.

Don’t get me wrong I don’t condone excessive speeding either but no wonder rational people dismiss the current system so easily these days with comments like that.
An extremely interesting pick up there.

It appears you may have read into this something their spin doctors failed to see when writing his spiel.
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with comments like what he has made, makes me wonder of his own intellectual ability, because clearly he has none.
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So by this officers admission ther is inherant danger in driving over the speed limit. Better tell the rest of your charges that emergancy vehicles aren't allowed to exceed the speed limit or they might just slide into trees.
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