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09-06-2011, 04:54 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi all,
Can anyone say with absolute certainty if the MA sedan version of the Mondeo was imported into Oz with either of the petrol engines? As ours is a diesel and there were no other MAs on the dealers inventory, I'm not sure. I'm getting a feel for Ford Oz's marketing strategy on the Mondeo range, but if Petrol engined sedans were imported then my theory gets a bit of a dent. TIA Cheers
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09-06-2011, 07:18 PM | #2 | |||
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09-06-2011, 07:31 PM | #3 | ||
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Most of the sedans I've seen at the dealers I've worked for have been petrols.
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09-06-2011, 07:34 PM | #4 | ||
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It was only Zetec from memory and could be had with either.
Have a look at the Resources section, there might be a scanned brochure there.
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10-06-2011, 02:53 AM | #5 | ||
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We got a 2.0 manual sedan in NZ as well as the 2.3 auto. There's quite a few sedan's on the road here.
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10-06-2011, 03:15 PM | #6 | ||
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I have a 2.3l 2007 MA sedan, though it is ZEtec. I seem to remeber some LX sedans available in the MA, but could be wrong?
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11-06-2011, 04:01 PM | #7 | ||
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Thanks people,
My thinking was that the petrol sedan MA Mondeos might not have been imported into Oz to avoid "stealing" sales from the falcon range - but for people who wanted a diesel engined sedan those were brought into the country to satisfy this need. But since petrol engined MA sedans were sold - there goes that idea. These days you can get Mondeo Hatches or Wagons and the falcon range has neither of these body models. Similarly diesel engines. Be interesting to see what happens when the 4 cylinder Falcon range becomes available - especially if a diesel option is available. Cheers
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11-06-2011, 04:51 PM | #8 | ||
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Is there talk of a diesel Falcon? It would chew into Mondeo sales, so I don't know if Ford would do it.
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13-06-2011, 03:57 AM | #9 | ||
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I think $$$ are the problem. But having engineered a diesel V6 into the Terri, you'd think it would be easy to fit the sequential turbo 3.0 into the Falcon...
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14-06-2011, 04:23 PM | #10 | ||
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[QUOTE=AlanD]Thanks people,
"My thinking was that the petrol sedan MA Mondeos might not have been imported into Oz to avoid "stealing" sales from the falcon range - but for people who wanted a diesel engined sedan those were brought into the country to satisfy this need". Haa, but you are not far from the truth. The sedan was discontinued (in my opinion) to protect the falcon range. The 2.3l is way past its sell by date (think mazda 6 engine pre 2008) but Ford Oz delayed the EB engine in Mondeo here while that engine had been introduced in europe. They were never going to commit to bringing in the EB until just recently. So I think the idea was to protect the falcon but the Mondeo is such a good car that in the end its quality could not be hidden any more (despite comparatively little advertisement). Now it is the second best selling car in its class. It is such a bloody good car and well optioned that it is a shame it has taken this while to sell well. I have no problem with Ford Oz protecting the falcon in order to protect jobs but I think it could be have been done in a better way. When u compete, u should always put ur best produts forward.....Put a good petrol (EB in hatch and THE WAGON TOO)/diesel (2.2l) engine in the Mondeo and watch it garner more sales in its class. And the falcon.......i think the more powerful EB in the falcon is in the right direction and then it has got to be well optioned for its price because it is also a good drive. However given Ford's current slant, its future may be shaky......... |
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14-06-2011, 07:33 PM | #11 | ||
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The Mondeo is a good car and has been successful in NZ. It is sold at a competitive price, and because Ford NZ has not discounted it into the rental fleets, hold its value well.
The Falcon competes against the Commodore, not the Mazda 6 or the Accord Euro. I had a XR6 as a lease vehicle for 3 years and loved it. But I needed a wagon, so bought a Mondeo. (I nearly bought a Sportwagon V8 during the GFC but my son said he'd never talk to me again!) IMHO Ford AU has missed a huge opportunity. The Falcon still sells well here, but the Mondeo is the 2nd best selling intermediate car in NZ.
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14-06-2011, 07:50 PM | #12 | |||
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Can't really fault my Mondeo after 3.5 years. I don't like admitting it but from a general reliability and quality perspective, it has it all over my falcon which suffered quite a few niggly issues in the first 30K (it's been not bad since though). The new MC's look really nice and I'd seriously consider a Titanium wagon if I didn't need a little more space with the 3 kids. Hopefully the better sales figures continue.
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14-06-2011, 08:12 PM | #13 | ||
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The other day I pulled up beside a Tango Colored Mondeo which didn't have the rear spoiler. Pretty sure it was Zetec and looked to me like an MA. I didn't see the TDCI badging on the back. Did the sedans have the rear spoiler?
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