Just got a Fiesta WT Zetec

[Dgalle]

Hey all. I just picked up my new-ish car - a WT Fiesta Zetec, 5 door in Phantom Blue. It was first registered in January 2011, and only has 7,000km on it.

One thing - only got one key (plus the valet key). Any idea where / how much to get a replacement from?

[Fiesta_Man69]

All new Fiestas should come with 2 sets of keys/immobilisers. If yours only has 7K kms on it then the dealership really should have them both, otherwise they're a few hundred to replace.

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

All new Fiestas should come with 2 sets of keys/immobilisers. If yours only has 7K kms on it then the dealership really should have them both, otherwise they're a few hundred to replace.

Thanks mate. Going to see them this afternoon to hit them up for another one - wish I'd insisted before signing :(

[vhcbm]

Just tell them you should of had 2, they might throw it in.

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by vhcbm

Just tell them you should of had 2, they might throw it in.

Will do. I got a pretty good deal on the car, so will see how I go.

[trumpy73]

The original owner probably lost it so they cut a cheap one as replacement. I doubt they'll give you another one out of goodwill (most don't see the big picture) but you never know.

[Dgalle]

One other thing. According to Redbook the WT Zetec was released in October 2010. But my manufacturer's plate on the door pillar has the manufactured date as June 2010 (compliance July 2010). Am I missing something?

Also, the manufacturer's plate mentions Germany (Ford GMBH), but not Thailand. Is this normal?

Thanks for everyone's help. I reckon I'll be visiting here lots!

[In Focus]

Sounds like it could be a WS?

[trumpy73]

Yeah (don't take my word for it) but Jun10 smells WS to me. Who said WT to you?
You can check the VIN to confirm.

You can also tell from the dashboard I believe. The WS has a soft db when you push with your finger, the WT has a hard more plastic-y feel.

PS: My wife's WS is jun built and july compliance.

[Moorie]

I have a month old WT Zetec and it was only supplied with one central locking flip key and the other is the valet key that the OP mentions. This may be a further cut back that Ford has made. (Had a look at the WT brochure and it states '...remote central locking with flip key and spare key)
My compliance plate also has Ford Werke GMBH, but a quick Google search shows that represents the parent company, and probably there to make most people think they are getting a European made car. However, if your VIN starts with MNB... then it's a Thai sourced vehicle from AutoAlliance Thailand. German VIN's start with WF0 or WF1.

Cheers Moorie.

[Cheech]

WT's were only supplied with one flip key and one non-flip key. Cost cutting.

[trumpy73]

WT
No key
No Spare wheel
No Jack

WE
No back seat
No handbrake
No Paint

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by trumpy73

Yeah (don't take my word for it) but Jun10 smells WS to me. Who said WT to you?
You can check the VIN to confirm.

You can also tell from the dashboard I believe. The WS has a soft db when you push with your finger, the WT has a hard more plastic-y feel.

PS: My wife's WS is jun built and july compliance.

Nope definitely WT. Have checked the VIN. Plus it:
- has storage tray under passenger seat
- doesn't have height adjustable steering wheel
- didn't have a spare (but just got dealer to swap it)
- has the chrome do-dads on the front bumper.

I'll post a pic of the compliance plate later. Mate someone can shed some light on it for me. Do other WT's has Thailand on the manufacturer's plate?

[Caydus]

I thought that WT Zetecs got 2 remotes while LXs and CLs got 1. Or maybe the dealer was just misinformed...

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by trumpy73

...but Jun10 smells WS to me. ... You can check the VIN to confirm.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I'm confused! The VIN is definitely a WT, but the build date seems to be before first WT's were made??? Anyone got any ideas?

[caprispecial]

I bought my wt lx in dec 10 and I thought that the zetecs werent released till about march11. The plot thickens.

[Moorie]

Originally Posted by Dgalle

Do other WT's has Thailand on the manufacturer's plate?

No mate, as mentioned above, I have a WT and the plate is as yours. The MNB at the start of the VIN designates that it is a Thai built model, not the wording above that.

[In Focus]

Put your VIN in here and see what comes up.

http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegS...7856E.walv0672

[AG3]

Originally Posted by Dgalle

One other thing. According to Redbook the WT Zetec was released in October 2010. But my manufacturer's plate on the door pillar has the manufactured date as June 2010 (compliance July 2010). Am I missing something?

Production usually starts months before the car is released, but June, 2010 sounds kind of too early because Ford started Fiesta production in Thailand only on July 2010.

I think the only existing Thai-built Fiestas before July 2010 were the pre-production models.

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by In Focus

Put your VIN in here and see what comes up.

http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegS...7856E.walv0672

Here's the results:

Primary Features Build Date: 09.06.2010Vehicle Line: Fiesta 2010- B299ABody Style: 5 Door SaloonVersion: Series 30Engine: 1.6L TIVCT PFI SigmaTransmission: 5 Speed Manual Transaxle - B5/IB5Drive: RHD FWDAxle Ratio: 4.07Emission: Stage IV EmissionsAir Conditioning: Manual Air ConditioningPaint: Phantom BlueInterior Colour: Syracus


So it was made in June 2010, but is definitely a WT. Wonder if I have a pre-produciton model or something.....the mystery continues!

[Caydus]

I was wondering what the difference is between the WTs we have here and the latest incarnation of the MK7 the pommies drive around.

[Moorie]

Wonder if it was brought out earlier than the official release date to be shown at one of the motor shows that are usually on August to October.

[trumpy73]

Check under MINOR features to see where it was built.

Mine says

Minor Features
Niehl Plant Built (which is GERMANY)

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by Moorie

Wonder if it was brought out earlier than the official release date to be shown at one of the motor shows that are usually on August to October.

Hmm. That sounds like a likely explanation.

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by trumpy73

Check under MINOR features to see where it was built.

Mine says

Minor Features
Niehl Plant Built (which is GERMANY)

When I searched the VIN there were no minor features listed (my previous post was the complete vehicle summary that the search returned)

[Moorie]

Just put my VIN in, if you have a look under the 'minor features' it says something like this (you have to click on it to open the detailed view, as below):
Minor Features

• Syracus
• Less Rear Mudflaps
• Front Scuff Plates - Bright
• Less Front Mudflaps
• Less Hill Launch Assist
• Rayong Assembly Plant - Thailand
• Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
• Zetec-S Sales Badge
• Safety Pack 1
• Cooling Pack II
• Brand Owner - Ford
• Less Fire Extinguisher Fixings
• Less Jack
• Kit - Enhanced Tyre Repair SVC
• With Rear Package Tray
• Power Front Windows One Touch Up/Do
• With Electric Rear Windows
• Green Tinted Glass All Round
• With Laminated Windscreen
• With Glove Box Lid
• With Bin Type Console
• With Console Cup Holder
• Interior Feature Colour - Syracus
• Side/Rear Door Trim Panel-Level 1
• With Footrest
• With Instrument Panel Stowage Box
• Drivers Visor Mir/Flap/Tick Pocket
• With Black Interior Door Handles
• With Cloth Door Trim Panel Insert
• With Load Floor Carpet
• First Aid Retain Strap
• With W/Triangle. Retainer Straps
• With Load Compartment Side Trim
• With Sport Grille
• Grille Mouldings - Bright
• Less Belt Moulding
• With Large Single Wing Rear Spoiler
• With Dipping Rear View Mirror
• With Drivers Power Mirror
• With Power Passenger Mirror
• With Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
• Passenger Seat Back Map Pocket
• Passenger Seat Cushion Extension
• With Front 2 Way Headrest
• With Fixed Rear Seat Cushion
• With Split Fold-Down Rear Seat
• With 2 Way Adjustable Rear Headrest
• With Rear Center Head Restraint
• Seat Back Material-Carpeted
• With Drvr/Passngr Seat Belt Minder
• With Driver 4 Way Mnl.Seat Adjuster
• With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
• With Front Tow Hooks
• With Rear Tow Hooks
• Less Trailer Coupling
• Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle
• Body Coloured Tailgate Handle
• Leather/Aluminium Gearshift Knob
• Soft Feel Gear Shift Boot
• With Child Proof Safety Lock
• With Power Lock Group
• Door Entry R/Cont Unit - Flip Key
• With Trans Linked Rr Washer/Wiper
• V/Intermittent With Anti-Drip Wipe
• Plastic Front Bumper -Sport
• Rear Bumper - Plastic Sport
• Air Crtn Rstrnt LH
• With 3 Point Seat Belts
• With 2 Static Rear Seat Belts
• With Driver Air Bag
• With Passenger Air Bag
• Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
• With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
• With Manual Adjust Frt.S.Belt Mount
• Seat Belt Pretensioners Drv/Pass
• Less Spare Wheel
• Style 4 Alloy 16" Wheel
• Less Spare Tyre
• Non Locking Lug Nuts
• Less Frame Mounted Fuel Filter
• Cold Start -15 Deg C
• With Sports Tuned Suspension
• With Front Stabilizer Bar
• 4.07
• With Plastic Moulded H/Brake Grip
• With Mechanical Parking Brake
• With Front Disc-Brake/Rr Drum Brake
• With IVD/Traction Control/ABS
• Less Anti-Spin Traction System
• Gear 3.58/1.93/1.28/0.95/0.76
• With Recirculating Heater
• With Ethanol Fuel Capability
• With 91 Octane Level Gasoline
• With Electric Power Steering
• With Tilting Only Steering Column
• Strg Whl-A/Bag+Audio+Cruise Control
• With Speed Control
• Low Series Analog Cluster
• With KMH Speedo
• With Trip Computer
• With Tachometer
• Dual Note Electric Horn
• Less Reverse Proximity Sensor
• With Anti-Theft Alarm
• With Engine Immobilizer - Integral
• Standard Duty Battery
• With A/V Jack And USB
• BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect
• Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
• ICE-Mid Level CD+AM/FM Radio
• Ice Feature Pack 4
• Highline ICE ICP
• 4 Speakers Front / 2 Speakers Rear
• Less Telephone Preparation Pack
• Voice Activated Module - British
• With Steering Wheel Radio Controls
• Hazard Warning Switch/Pad Lamp
• Less Smokers Package
• With Power Point Plug
• With Dual Headlamp
• Front Fog Lamps - Sport
• Less Interior Light Group
• With Footwell Lights
• Header Mounted Courtesy/Maplights
• With Courtesy Light Delay
• With Load Compartment Lamp
• With High Mounted Stop Lamp
• With Single Rear Fog Lamp
• With Conventional Headlamp Control
• With RH Front Courtesy Light Switch
• With Rear Courtesy Light Switch
• Metropolitan Grey (Mica)

There are more minor features for this vehicle, click to expand this list.

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by Moorie

if you have a look under the 'minor features' it says something like this (you have to click on it to open the detailed Light Switch

As my previous post, on my vehicle details there are NO minor features. All it lists is the stuff I posted. Reckon I might call Ford on Monday, but dont know if I'll actually find someone that can help me.....

At least if it is pre-production or was for car shows then I'd imagine the finish quality should be pretty high....

[In Focus]

Try changing the last number up or down one or two digits. You might pick up another car built on the same day.

[Dgalle]

Originally Posted by In Focus

Try changing the last number up or down one or two digits. You might pick up another car built on the same day.

OK cool. Added 1 to the VIN got a diesel zetec, made in Thailand for the Australian market. Which means that either mine is
A) a pre-production model (first WT Zetec?)
B) made for display at car shows?
C) a result of huge lead times between manufacturing and delivery, maybe Ford stockpiled to ensure availability?

Thanks for all the help. It's still a bit of a mystery, but at least I have confirmed that it is a WT and was made in Thailand.

[GoesLikeAZetec]

Good luck finding anyone in Ford who has any idea mate, let alone one that cares about finding out.

In general Ford Oz dont know anything about the fiesta's.

We seem to know more about them in here than they do.