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03-02-2012, 03:12 PM | #1 | |||
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03-02-2012, 03:27 PM | #2 | ||
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No usual mention of remorse.... oh, wait, three speeding convictions prior and one afterwards. Well there went the remorse.
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03-02-2012, 03:29 PM | #3 | ||
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I don't know why we bother worrying or getting upset about these things anymore. The system will never change, so why bother wasting time getting angry anymore.
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03-02-2012, 03:32 PM | #4 | |||
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Reading the story did get my back up though! Punishments do not fit the crimes these days.
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03-02-2012, 03:46 PM | #5 | |||
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If I had struck down and killed someone under those circumstances, I don't know if I'd be able to get behind the wheel of a car again.. let alone get done for speeding after it! |
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03-02-2012, 03:57 PM | #6 | ||
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It's disturbing to know someone can take anothers life, whether young or old, and still be able to see the light of day and integrate with society.
I just don't even care about our legal system anymore, especially after reading things like this, but then seeing "John Taxdodge that owed $5M in tax, was arrested and jailed immediately for life today with no parole." |
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03-02-2012, 04:47 PM | #7 | ||
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ah! you see if you take the life of a poor man then that can be forgiven but if you steal from a bank or knock over a rich persons home they will throw away the key!
same as when that lawyer Mcgee or whatever his name was that knocked the cyclist over and killed him in the barossa (i think),.....immediately went and hid the 4wd and rang a lawyer mate of his without even reporting the accident to the authorities got away scott free......even though there was overwhelming evidence that he did it (drunk) and then hid the crime life is cheap if you have little money......money is precious.......back to front IMHO! re-open Port Arthur I reckon!
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03-02-2012, 05:03 PM | #8 | |||
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It really makes me sad that someone can take someone else's life in a way such as this, and they aren't held to account for their actions. He didn't have a lapse in judgement, he intentionally went out whilst his licence was suspended and participated in another illegal activity, he killed someone in the process, a person cannot be replaced like a material possession, and yet all they get is a slap on the wrist. There is no lesson learnt. I'm really disappointed that there aren't more judges like this...
http://cpsuvic.org/campaigns/fisheri...uly%202010.pdf I really admire judges who have limited tolerance to repeat offenders...and this guy seems to really give them a hard time - even told a local sporting 'hero'... Quote:
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03-02-2012, 06:26 PM | #9 | ||
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Unbelievable. If he had of been just 20km/h over the limit then maybe but all the other circumstances dictate he should be jailed as it is total disregard for anyone else.
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03-02-2012, 06:45 PM | #10 | ||
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Everyone seems to say, jail someone. Why?
I do feel sorry for the family that lost a loved one, as a result of an imbisiles actions, but surely there should be another method, rather than us paying for his room and board.
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A wheel alignment fixes everything, when it comes to front end issues. This includes any little noises. Please read the manual carefully, as the these manufacturers spent millions of dollars making sure it is perfect.....Now why are there so many problems with my car, when I follow the instructions to the letter?....Answer, majority rules round here Lock me up and throw away the key because I'm a hoon....I got caught doing 59 in a 60 zone |
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03-02-2012, 06:49 PM | #11 | ||
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I know it sounds really bad, but I can't help to think why was an 80 year old man crossing an 80km/h road and not see cars coming. My primary school used to front an 80km/h road and you knew full well the road had to be clear for a long way to attempt to cross.
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03-02-2012, 06:55 PM | #12 | |||
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Unroadworthy car, suspended licence and prior convictions and actions which ultimately lead to him killing someone. There is no scope for leniency in this case. |
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03-02-2012, 06:59 PM | #13 | ||
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no jail for causing death by dangerous driving, with priors.
woe betide anyone who downloads pirated movies, or doesn't pay their tax. both will see you in prison. |
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03-02-2012, 07:00 PM | #14 | |||
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there is another method. banishment. to an island somewhere. |
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03-02-2012, 07:20 PM | #15 | |||
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I accept he was a moron etc etc, but what is jailing going to prove? There have been morons like him before and surely there will be morons like him after. So I doubt it'll discourage others from doing the same. Perhaps some good ol' justice. Eye for an eye sounds good, rather than everyone paying for his room and board. BTW, I do have sympathy for the family involved, so I'm not a cold hearted person. I have a brother than has health poblems as a result of an unlicenced drunk driver driving on the wrong side of the road. It happened 30 odd years ago, when my brother was riding his pushbike.
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A wheel alignment fixes everything, when it comes to front end issues. This includes any little noises. Please read the manual carefully, as the these manufacturers spent millions of dollars making sure it is perfect.....Now why are there so many problems with my car, when I follow the instructions to the letter?....Answer, majority rules round here Lock me up and throw away the key because I'm a hoon....I got caught doing 59 in a 60 zone |
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03-02-2012, 08:16 PM | #16 | ||
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There are good arguments for and against jail time in this thread -- I'm not sure where I sit on that subject.
What I do believe is that he should be disqualified from ever holding a driving licence ever again. I'm not sure whether jail will help him but I sure as **** know that getting him off the roads permanently would definitely help the rest of us. |
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03-02-2012, 09:06 PM | #17 | |||
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03-02-2012, 09:18 PM | #18 | ||
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Yeah, true enough. :/
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03-02-2012, 09:54 PM | #19 | ||
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Soooo the guilty party hasn't had sleepless nights. thoughts of suicide and memories/ regrets to last him his whole life?
Get off ya high horse folks.... |
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03-02-2012, 10:01 PM | #20 | ||
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Pretty sure thats manslaughter, 7 years jail usually.
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03-02-2012, 10:25 PM | #21 | |||
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03-02-2012, 10:30 PM | #22 | ||
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This happened while his licence was suspended.
Shows suspensions and warnings don't mean anything..plus another offence AFTER the event suggests that even the death of an innocent person has not made any difference. |
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03-02-2012, 10:54 PM | #23 | |||
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This. ^^^^ One must wonder why he was there. Although it is not mentioned in the article, i would daresay that this could be a reason why the young bloke was seemingly let off so lightly. I suspect there may have been a misjudgement on the elderly mans part, regardless of the speed limit being broken. I certainly would not condone what was done, but believe this may have had a sway on things. It doesn't sensationalise the story enough with this sort of information, but i would have to imagine this would be a part truth. If not, then the system is way too soft.
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03-02-2012, 11:39 PM | #24 | ||
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The old bloke was walking home from his mosque... from the first paragraph of the article, he was given leniency because he 'grassed' on the other racer...and he wasn't doing 80...he admitted he was doing between 90 and 100.
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03-02-2012, 11:59 PM | #25 | ||
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The article also mentioned lots of loud revving etc. And that the first car swerved and the following idiot hit the old gent. Seems to me that for the old boy to be hit like that, it suggests that he was more towards the middle of the road and not near the kerb. Being an 80 area, i really do think there may have been an error from the old gent which inadvertently contributed. Maybe he didn't look far enough or hear the sounds of the cars. Like i say, i do not believe this tool should have been let off so lightly, but i really do believe there is more to it than reported. We all know how the media love to pounce on the deadly hoon drivers killing people scenario. How else could this guy be let off so lightly otherwise? I know the sentencing system is rubbish, but surely not this bad?
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04-02-2012, 12:07 AM | #26 | ||
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"He sentenced Grech to 18 months jail, wholly suspended for two years, but warned him that if he drove while disqualified he would have to serve the whole term in custody"
Im sure he will get behind the wheel again and will only be hit with a fine. Its as though the real terrors on our roads are allowed to stay in society just to make revenue. |
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04-02-2012, 12:27 AM | #27 | ||
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i might become a martyr for the cause.
totally refuse to pay fines and my tax. both criminal offences, and push it for a trial by jury. lets see what sentence i get compared to people like this. |
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04-02-2012, 12:34 AM | #28 | ||
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This stuff always reminds me of Slayers - Dittohead.
The legal system has no spine It's corroding from inside Slap your hand and you'll do no time Reality on vacation All across a blinded nation Mentally under sedation Anyone can be set free On a technicality Explain the law again to me Unafraid of punishment With a passive government There's nothing for you to regret
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04-02-2012, 12:36 AM | #29 | ||
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Well think about it, he's probley going to loose his mates, family might dis-own him or NEVER forgive him, he's probley going to get mugged/bashed by people who recognise him as the Street racing murderer?
either way his life is going to be hell here on.. |
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04-02-2012, 12:56 AM | #30 | |||
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