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05-04-2012, 06:19 PM
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  Was following a Mercedes bus and noticed the taillights looked familiar? Are these actually VN taillights fitted upside-down or are my eyes playing tricks. |
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05-04-2012, 06:24 PM
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These buses were used by Sunbus all over QLD for the past 10yrs or so... and yes they are VN lights upsidedown
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05-04-2012, 06:31 PM
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That's a smart idea using them tail lights. Would be cost effective to use a part that is cheap and easy to source locally.
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05-04-2012, 06:48 PM
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Merc builds the running gear. Nearly all bus bodies are built separately on a manufacturers chass, most locally
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05-04-2012, 06:52 PM
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Theres a bus I see regularly with EB rear lights.
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05-04-2012, 07:02 PM
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Some old merc buses had old merc s class tail lights.
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05-04-2012, 08:23 PM
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These trucks use VN Commodore headlights/indicators
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05-04-2012, 09:24 PM
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or the ef-el bumper bar vents used in the pod above the cab on the ambulances.
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05-04-2012, 09:46 PM
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haha yeah i saw that bus on gympie rd about a month ago
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05-04-2012, 10:47 PM
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Ive got a 98 iveco prime mover in my work shop at the moment someone's fitted a after market bull bar with ed head lights and indicators in it. And ive work on those merc busses with the commodore light in them the body is made by A.Denning body design the tail light need a little grinding to fit but nothing to major and also use the commodore rear wiring loom for the lights.
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06-04-2012, 01:47 AM
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Wonder if they fill up with water and corrode the sockets like they do on a VN. Maybe that's why they are upside down?!
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06-04-2012, 02:05 AM
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I always used too think that they looked like VN tail lights now i know!! sweet can now tell my commodore supporting friends thats the only thing VNs were good for!! (bus tail lights) (no offence to anyone who has a VN on here I'm just joking!!) next time they they bag me out for owning fords!!! hehe
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06-04-2012, 08:05 AM
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Of all the lights in the world to put on a bus, gawd.
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06-04-2012, 05:07 PM
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Would they be tail lights sourced from the german Opel Senator or Reckord? Seeing as how the VN was based on these cars and the Mercedes bus is German they may have shared some parts.
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06-04-2012, 05:39 PM
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But yeah, Commodores from this era are essentially direct Opel copies.
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06-04-2012, 05:41 PM
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We have buses built by Northcoast Bus and Coach in QLD down here with Ventura in Melbourne and also in Tassie with Metro Tasmania, they seem to have BA Falcon headlamps. These buses were built in 2002-03 so highly likely.
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06-04-2012, 06:47 PM
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those VN lights look like theyve been hit with nightshades...... for that "phat" look
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06-04-2012, 07:04 PM
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See this photo- travel on these to work quite frequently. This one was built in 2003 by Northcoast Bus and Coach works in QLD on a Scania chassis, check out the similarity of the headlights to the BA Falcon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ve..._Chadstone.jpg |
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06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
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The fact they used a German chassis and the VN tail lights is purely co-incidence. I would bet at the time (given these buses appeared on the road in the late 1990s) that they probably bought out the last stock of the tail lights from holden.
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06-04-2012, 07:28 PM
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AB Denning in Acacia Ridge in Brisbane did the bodywork for those things.
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06-04-2012, 07:32 PM
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06-04-2012, 07:36 PM
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06-04-2012, 07:41 PM
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on the other hand, they could be EA ones, with different indicators.
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06-04-2012, 08:23 PM
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The bus is a Mercedes Vario chassis, bodies for the most part were produced by Alan B Denning. (Yeah, I'm a nerd)...
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06-04-2012, 08:24 PM
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Nope not even EA headlights... no idea how the comparison between BA and those headlights was made either.
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06-04-2012, 08:37 PM
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Some on this thread seem to have trouble grasping the fact that buses are built the same way cars were in Australia more than 70 years ago. A chassis/engine is imported and a local bodybuilder puts a body on it. Naturally, for what are miniscule production runs, bodybuilders are going to scour the local parts bins for common parts rather than have something expensively made as a virtual one-off. Only the minibuses like Coasters are fully imported with bodies.
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