Rear upper control arm outer bush IRS

[BillC]

Hi all, my upper control arm outer bush has gone squeeky. It does not look that hard to replace but my manual suggests getting professionals to do it. Is it that hard to get out ?

[T3man]

What vehicle?

[BOTTLEDUP]

Hard bit is getting a replacement.... That is if you are talking the spherical joint at the outer end of the upper control arm.

[T3man]

The spherical joint is readily available if it is upper control arm for AU IRS. Lower joint is the problem but you can use a BA one with 1.5mm packer washers on either end.

You will need a press to get it out.

[Bushbasher]

T3man, I think you got that back to front, the lower one is not a problem, it's the upper outer that you can't get now and must use the BA one with spacers. I know this as I just went through the exercise with my Fairlane. A BA rose joint from Ford costs about $90 BTW, then you need the spacers and someone to press out the old one and press in the new one. In the end I just got a whole replacement arm with a good rose joint in it from a wreckers. It was cheaper and easier.

[T3man]

Yeah? ... round the wrong way? ... not surprised; I've done it at roundabouts too!

[Bushbasher]

Originally Posted by T3man

Yeah? ... round the wrong way? ... not surprised; I've done it at roundabouts too!

[BillC]

Sorry, its an XR8 ser3 IRS

[BillC]

I just bought a tool off the net for removing and replaceing the rear outer upper control arm bush whilst on the car. Its for the ba but from what you all have been saying and my own research it should also work for the xr with IRS. The tool cost 50 including postage on ebay. Ill let you know how it works

[Rfordsfun]

BillC any updates on the tool ? about to do mine. Read you can do upper outers with a large g clamp and sockets / pipe. Anyone find a good how to link? cheers .

[BillC]

tool was no good. It was in that tight it just stripped the thread

[mif73]

Originally Posted by BillC

tool was no good. It was in that tight it just stripped the thread

Go to a bolt shop and get various length high tensile bolts and nuts and washers that will fit inside 1/2" drive sockets. The bolt also goes through the bush.

Then soak the assy well for at least an hour with rostoff or a mix of acetone, brake fluid and auto trans fluid.

Lube the high tensile bolt well and use it with washers, spacers, sockets, tube etc and preferably a rattle gun to pull the bush out of the arm.
You can also reverse the assy to pull the new bushes back on too.

I have done all my outer bushes on my au irs this way and did not need to remove the arms or need a press.
Cheers.

[Silver']

Originally Posted by mif73

Go to a bolt shop and get various length high tensile bolts and nuts and washers that will fit inside 1/2" drive sockets. The bolt also goes through the bush.

Then soak the assy well for at least an hour with rostoff or a mix of acetone, brake fluid and auto trans fluid.

Lube the high tensile bolt well and use it with washers, spacers, sockets, tube etc and preferably a rattle gun to pull the bush out of the arm.
You can also reverse the assy to pull the new bushes back on too.

I have done all my outer bushes on my au irs this way and did not need to remove the arms or need a press.
Cheers.

Definitely worth a shot as you have to drop the IRS cradle to get the upper arms out.

My lowers went first, as you'd expect, given that they carry the load of the car whereas the uppers only carry the load of the upper control arm's weight. I'd encourage you to double-check them just in case. I found an eBay seller selling Whiteline (not in a Whiteline box) for a reasonable price. $85 uppers (yes, you need a washer) and $85 lowers. So $170 posted for all four.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Falc...item4d31658b37

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Falc...item4638fc23ee

[wang6176820]

I tried several times to get the bush out but not successful. I'm wondering if I'm pulling out the bush in the right direction? Or doesn't matter I press it out to vehicle's forward direction or backward direction?

[zdenko]

I'm confused by comments above of parts not being available.
I'm up for this too as my 260000 km outer bushes/joints on the upper arms look pretty worn out.

Superpro lists SPF3233K as the part and is applicable to AU BA BF FG Falcon and Territory's.
So are we saying here that these do not work on an AU IRS without spacers/washers?
Doesn't say anything on their website.

I also noted that on their website they now make IRS top mounts!!! RS010.



Nolathane lists 46338 as the part.
Its applicable vehicles is very different for their part. It lists a large range of Subaru Imprezza's, Foresters and BRZ's/86 as well as AU Falcons.
The picture of the bushing actually shows washers included.

SO who has used what in the past?