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Old 03-01-2014, 05:26 PM   #1
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Queensland police will roll out a scorecard system for cops in an effort to reduce crime by 10 per cent.

The average number of traffic fines, random breath tests, street checks and calls for service per officer will be assessed on the scorecards along with budgets and overtime.

Civil libertarians fear it’s a return to the controversial ‘‘kill sheets’’ of the 70s and 80s where quotas for fines were set.

Queensland Council for Civil Liberties vice-president Terry O’Gorman says the system could lead to police abusing their powers to reach quotas.


He says complaints were already being received about police abusing search powers in the wake of anti-bikie laws passed late last year.

‘‘Last year senior police indicated RBTs would be used as an opportunity to search cars for evidence of crimes other than drink-driving,’’ Mr O’Gorman said.

‘‘This has led to police unnecessarily searching cars and bullying and blustering innocent citizens into so-called ‘consent’ searches.’’

He said police must be made to tape all contact with citizens when the new scorecard system is in place and is urging the commissioner to introduce a rigorous monitoring system.

Scorecards are being trialled in several areas including on some squads on the Gold Coast.

Police Commissioner Ian Stewart told The Courier-Mail newspaper the scorecards were a way of ‘‘demonstrating to the public they are getting value for money’’ from the police service.

He also said the system generally focused on the performance of a group of officers.

‘‘And then the team leaders then assess the individual members. The balanced scorecard is more about group assessment than individual assessment and that is one of its strengths,’’ he told the paper.

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My Comment : Is this why the guy was fined for 1km over ? and the other guy for having his window down ???? This will lead to harrassment to meet quotas....

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Old 03-01-2014, 05:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: QPol Must Now Meet Quotas..

All you can do is really at the amount of stupid at Qpol
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Old 03-01-2014, 06:19 PM   #3
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This is nothing new they've always had a quota to meet each month, I was told by a copper quite a few years back.
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Old 03-01-2014, 06:20 PM   #4
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must "now" meet quotas
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Old 03-01-2014, 06:33 PM   #5
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Because the media found out we must "now" know about it. Definately shades of ol" jack boot petersen."ah qld,perfect one day, booked the next."
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:30 PM   #7
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Agree pots.... KPIs nothing new!
And sick to death of these bloody pol pol scare threads
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Charliewool its not a "bloody pol pol scare thread " its information on what is happening and FF members should need to know. Its how a police state starts.....
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It has already started !!!
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Yeah yeah... Like the other 10,000 police threads.
I'd also suggest a fair proportion of the forum reads a newspaper most days?
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Lol, listen to you lot, how dare someone want to spread information about what's going on around the place...

Isn't that what a forum does?

Don't like the thread topic? Don't read it, it's not rocket science.

I for one, enjoy these threads, it's always good to see what's happening.
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It's like these ridiculous fines handed out in the late weeks, its just the coppers fulfilling the quotas and being performance managed, like most of you are.
They are also sticking it up their Commissioner who has said all the gloves are off. Its quite funny because the coppers who wrote these fines are going to sit at a desk for the next six months answering the written investigations into their actions. That alone will put more coppers on the road, yeah, right. Meanwhile the adjudication branch will cancel lots of these silly fines along with the courts.
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If the police commissioner is pushing the police to write more tickets and investigate more crime won't the stats show an increase in crime rather than a 10% decrease?
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The police are probably ****ed of at being asked to do stupid **** like this so there giving the gov bad press by writing stupid fines to get it reversed
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Charliewool its not a "bloody pol pol scare thread " its information on what is happening and FF members should need to know. Its how a police state starts.....
With traffic tickets?

Seriously, my definition of a police state is one where citizens are spied on to make sure they are thinking 'correct' thoughts, cannot voice dissent for fear of retribution and where people who are 'undesirable' disappear in the dead of night... We may get there one day but not anytime soon... Police states usually start with armed conflict and an admiral who is willing to fire on his own people.
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An admiral? Firing on us with his battle ships? just move further away from the shore haha
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Sounds like a plan except I think admirals are usually in charge of all three branches of armed forces? Off course my knowledge of military hierarchy may be slightly askew...
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The police are probably ****ed of at being asked to do stupid **** like this so there giving the gov bad press by writing stupid fines to get it reversed
It wouldn't surprise me if the cop from the 1k over fine, got in trouble for being to lenient on low range speeders so he gave that fine to somebody that would kick up a stink, to prove a point.
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Nz police denied for years that they had a ticket quota.
Turns out they didnt have a quota ,it was a "numerical Target" !!!
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If they are being pushed to make more arrests, fines or whatever......what were they doing before. Being slack?
That's what they do....enforce the law....do they really need a scorecard.....wow!
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Firstly, I am not a policeman. but just on the job of a policeman. they are working for a living like the rest of us, they also answer to and are directed to do what is asked of them to do. like it or not. they have to. and I am guessing when called to an accident or a brawl and have to put themselves on the line, its their job and have to.
What is wrong with the hierarchy above the policemen up to senior commissioners is that a government with an ailing bank balance dictates these laws to prop up their bad management.
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With traffic tickets?

Seriously, my definition of a police state is one where citizens are spied on to make sure they are thinking 'correct' thoughts, cannot voice dissent for fear of retribution and where people who are 'undesirable' disappear in the dead of night... We may get there one day but not anytime soon...

Sounding a bit like Queensland to be honest.... Where arbitrary detention is legal, freedom to associate is abolished, the right to a fair trial is only if you have enough money, you can only own or work in what businesses the state says you can work in, where cops stop you entering a business to ask you why your going in there, where they are legally allowed to strip search, and photograph you regardless of having committed a crime...
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Seriously, my definition of a police state is one where citizens are spied on to make sure they are thinking 'correct' thoughts, cannot voice dissent for fear of retribution and where people who are 'undesirable' disappear in the dead of night... We may get there one day but not anytime soon... Police states usually start with armed conflict and an admiral who is willing to fire on his own people.
I'd say most people would be concerned that it's even heading in that direction.
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Sounding a bit like Queensland to be honest.... Where arbitrary detention is legal, freedom to associate is abolished, the right to a fair trial is only if you have enough money, you can only own or work in what businesses the state says you can work in, where cops stop you entering a business to ask you why your going in there, where they are legally allowed to strip search, and photograph you regardless of having committed a crime...
Freedom of speech? Taken at your own risk...
You make it sound just like a police state!
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Quotas are not just applicable to the police force. Most state run organisations are demanding 'quotas' be met. The 'state' pays for much mandatory professional development across many areas of its jurisdiction and expects commensurate results...
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Do their quota / kill sheets take into account the discrepancy caused by the extra hour of daylight they have available / miss during daylight savings??
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