|
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#1 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,876
|
Hi,
SA government is seeking input on road safety matter (if you are a driver or passenger in SA). Interesting to see the skew of the questions with a heavy emphasis on reducing speed limits (even though the department says less than 6% of crashes caused by speed. When in fact Fatigue, inattention, carelessness are the big causes). Comments box at the end for your input too. http://survey.euro.confirmit.com/wix9/p1843583949.aspx |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 | ||
The one and only
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
Posts: 9,053
|
Victoria should do the same thing!
__________________
1992 DC LTDHO 360rwkw built by me Tuned by CVE Performance Going of the rails on a crazy train Other cars include Dynamic ED Sprint, Dynamic DL LTD, Sparkling Burgundy DL LTD, Yellow, Red & Blue XB sedan & Black XB Coupe
|
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Shoalhaven
Posts: 3,161
|
Worth anybody doing this survey to get a message across that factors other than "speed" are road safety issues.
The Adelaide postcode is 5000 ;) |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 | ||
Donating Member
![]() Join Date: May 2005
Location: Country SA
Posts: 2,053
|
Thanks for posting this.
It always amazes me how they continually try to point to the speed on rural roads as the main factor in accidents. I read somewhere a couple years back that Australia had a Europian crash expert come here to to conduct a study on our roads and accidents and he said that our lower speed limits played a great part in all the accidents. He said it was due to the inatention at the lower speeds and that they actually caused fatigue and said to reduce the incidents raise the speed limits to make people more aware and turn on their senses. I strongly believe things like mandatory head light use on highways, better roads and enforcing grey power to sit on the speed limit with their caravans will reduce the amount of accidents we see. Also hate the fact that the SA police will set up speed cameras along stretches of rural road where you don't see a single red or black marker accident marker. That is not trying to prevent incidents that is just revenue raising. Why not spend the time in places like out side of schools where idiots speed past or parking at the blind corners on the highway where morons risk over taking. I don't agree with speeding like a lunatic on our roads but don't agree we need to reduce the speed limit either. After all it is not speed that kills it is the dhead that cuts infront of you. Rant over Last edited by syco26; 12-05-2015 at 07:36 AM. |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 | ||
When in doubt, GAS IT!!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lower Eyre Peninsula, SA
Posts: 3,018
|
Just did it and avoided marking speeding or reducing speeds as solutions. I focused on driver education and fixing the roads.
__________________
. HERS- BFIII Wagon Gold, alloys, dual fuel, bullbar, big tow pack, trans cooler, fully rebuilt HD suspension, Clarion, alarmed, full 2 1/2" sports system, mint body MINE- AUII Forte Meteorite, dual fuel but otherwise bog stock. MINE- AUII Fairlane Sportsman Liquid Silver over meteorite,HIDs', Airhog, Eagle Leads, dual fuel, custom rear springs, BA slotted discs + a second one for spares . |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Darwin
Posts: 1,694
|
Yeah done here too (I do use SA road often).
Reducing speed limits is not the solution, but as the survey points out - it's the cheapest thing to do!
__________________
1976 XB Falcon 500 Wagon - BUILD THREAD Sherwood Green | 3spd/250CI | Running Whitewalls on a 2.5" Drop |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 | ||
Workshop & Performance
![]() Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hewett SA
Posts: 4,128
|
The question is, are they actually listening or are they just playing the appearance of public consultation game....
__________________
When close is good enough and the 6 MPS in the driveway has FoMoCo written all over the place. Xr5 for sale shortly...just not a hatch guy |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 | ||
Workshop & Performance
![]() Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hewett SA
Posts: 4,128
|
What a crock. Canted to get the answers required, you CAN'T avoid an option somewhere if you answer all questions that implies speeding is the demon and the money helps makes things safer. Quit part way through.
__________________
When close is good enough and the 6 MPS in the driveway has FoMoCo written all over the place. Xr5 for sale shortly...just not a hatch guy |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,876
|
Yeah but does it work? Inattention, carelessness are responsible for over 90% of crashes. Do you pay more attention and are more careful when you go faster or slower?
|
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 | ||
Isn't it obvious?
![]() Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: in a world of idiots
Posts: 5,383
|
really?
i had no prob in not picking out speeding as the main culprit
__________________
08 Strike G6E T. 10 Ergo G6E Sept 75 XB Falcon in mushroom beige, 3 on the tree 200cid for sale, offers in the teens |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 5,055
|
Likewise.
I focussed on education and fining those that are reckless and inattentive. |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 618
|
I can't complete it because I don't permanently live in SA, but when driving there I've noticed a lot of trees dangerously close to the road.
Also if they really wan't to keep the current number of speed cameras that they've got, I reckon consideration should be given to having more point to point cameras which don't just catch the car speeding at a single instant in time, which says nothing about the drivers behaviour before and after the photo. To me it seems logical that a brief distance over the limit is potentially less dangerous than a long distance over the limit. Also perhaps consideration could be given to reducing current penalties for the normal (single instant in time) speed camera infringements and keeping the current penalties for significant distance point to point infringements. When drivers are looking for hidden speed cameras and down at their speedos during an overtaking manoeuvre, they're not looking at the road. Are heavy penalties at times actually working against improving road safety? I can't argue that driving hasn't become safer since speed cameras were introduced, but in the same period the safety of cars has improved hugely. I'm reminded of how dangerous some early 70's Front disc, rear drum braked cars could be in panic stop situations as highlighted on Peter Wherritt's ABC program. Get sideways during a panic stop and you could easily end up wrapped around a tree. ABS/ESP type electronic Nannies plus passive safety systems have made modern cars hugely safer I think. Actually the survey looked OK to me and there are areas for comment, so I would submit it if I could, but I thought I would post my ideas that some South Australian members might agree with and want to include if they complete the survey. Last edited by 2242100; 12-05-2015 at 02:19 PM. |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 | ||
Isn't it obvious?
![]() Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: in a world of idiots
Posts: 5,383
|
tbh looking at it i reckon anyone could do it and just put in an SA postcode?
__________________
08 Strike G6E T. 10 Ergo G6E Sept 75 XB Falcon in mushroom beige, 3 on the tree 200cid for sale, offers in the teens |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#14 | |||
Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 20,368
|
I did the survey. Bit of a one way line of thinking from them, so I did what I could to make sure I wasnt buying they crap. This is what I wrote in the additional comments section of the survey
Quote:
__________________
"the greatest trick the devil pulled, is convincing the world he doesn't exist" 2022 Mazda CX5 GTSP Turbo 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Highlander 1967 XR FALCON 500 Cars previously owned: 2021 Subaru Outback Sport 2018 Subaru XV-S 2012 Subaru Forester X 2007 Subaru Liberty GT 2001 AU2 75th Anniversary Futura 2001 Subaru GX wagon 1991 EB XR8 1977 XC Fairmont 1990 EA S Pak 1984 XE S Pak 1982 ZJ Fairlane 1983 XE Fairmont 1989 EA Falcon 1984 Datsun Bluebird Wagon 1975 Honda Civic |
|||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#15 | ||
BANNED
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,886
|
I told them that enforcing laws that don't attract the highest penalties would significantly add to road safety.
Keep left is a good start. |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#16 | ||
Performance moderator
![]() Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St Clair..N.S.W
Posts: 14,875
|
Another form of tax.. Get it off the so called hoon rather than big business etc..
__________________
Real cars are not driven by front wheels,real cars lift them!!... BABYS ARE BOTTLE FED, REAL MEN GET BLOWN. Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! Dart 330ci block turbo black pearl EBXR8 482 rwkw.. Daily driver GTE FG.. Projects http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=107711 http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...8+turbo&page=4 |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#17 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,857
|
please don't respond and give them information they can twist to their own ends.
|
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#18 | ||
Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,394
|
I'm a pedestrian on South Australian roads who believes my chances of being involved in a serious crash are extremely likely and that you need more speed cameras
![]() I HAVE UNDONE ALL YOUR HARD WORK! ![]() |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#19 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Darwin
Posts: 1,694
|
Quote:
I live in the NT so we've got the 130km/h and unrestricted zones so my thoughts are in full support of higher speed limits.
__________________
1976 XB Falcon 500 Wagon - BUILD THREAD Sherwood Green | 3spd/250CI | Running Whitewalls on a 2.5" Drop |
|||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#20 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 5,055
|
I wrote similar to blueoval in the comments, mainly regarding more police presence over more speed cameras. And to focus on all the other offences such as tailgating rather than all the attention on speed.
|
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|