New shed a hoist plans

[syco26]

I am about to have a shed put on my property. The shed will be roughly 9m wide with two roller doors and 12m deep. I am getting it higher than standard with the the wall height of 3.6. I am planning on getting a minimum of a two post hoist but ideally would like a two post and a four post later down the track.

I have a couple of questions I am hoping someone could answer that have been through this before.

Question 1- positioning of the hoists.
Was thinking to plan the shed to have the hoists next to each other as soon as you drive in the shed but think that may be a pain for getting cars into the rear of the shed.
If I have them in the rear of the shed it will cut down the area I can have for workspace and areas I can devide later, ie. Clean room for motor work or spray booth.
If I have one in front of the other it will be good keeping one one half of the shed free for deviding but will restrict what I can do if I have one partially completed car sitting on the front hoist for instance.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Question 2- floor thickness.
I have read heaps and there is a great differing of opinions on it. Will 100mm be sufficient for the whole shed but make the strip for the hoists thicker? Should I go 150mm for the whole shed so I can place them anywhere? Or does the slab need to be thicker still?
Once again any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[hendrixhc]

Check with the manufacturer specs on the hoists. The 2 posters need a much thicker pad than the 4 posters.

I got a 150mm thick floor with a 4 poster and havent had any issues.

[Crazy Dazz]

If you have enough roof height you can drive cars underneath a car on the hoist.
You also need to think about what will actually go in the shed. Is it going to be half filled with "future projects," along the back wall, or do you have a few cars and pieces of equipment that need frequent access. Are your hoists going to be used to service different vehicles frequently, or will you just have projects sitting on them?

One option for the 4-poster is the ones with wheels.

[XP6]

Put the hoist at an 45° angle to the main entrance, that way it doesnt block access to the rest of the shed and is still easy to line the car up on it. The corner that it blocks off use as your main tool storage area.

[syco26]

Thanks for the replies.
I have one that will be a long term project, another I play with a fair bit but is in parts at the minute-soon to be painted and running again.

I think the hoist will be used for storing one off the ground most the time when not utilising it to work on cars.

I like the idea of putting it on a 45 but think it may block access a little too much. Shed should be high enough to drive a car under while one is in the air.

Any suggestions on hoists? Brands/models to looks at or steer clear of?

[bartaxr8]

I have a 2 post Tufflift hoist. I've had it for about 8 months now, no problems. Although it isn't up and down 20 times a day as a hoist in a dealership might be. The slab is 150mm thick where the hoist is and 100mm everywhere else. My roof height is 4m at the bottom of the gable. It is only a 240V hoist but lifts my Galaxie perfectly ok.

[GSP07R]

Are you going to run 3 phase to the shed?
Some hoist you can run 240v but you need to also buy the power unit.

With a two post one you might need to get base plate one as an overhead might not fit with 3.6 height.
E.g. this one is 3594mm

http://www.tufflift.com.au/products/...d-drop-in-pads

[LTDHO]

Syco I just finished installing two hoists in my garage, both from Tufflift.
The 4 post is good because it doesn't need to be bolted down, plus it comes with wheels so it can be moved when unloaded.
The two post needed 10 x 3/4" dyna bolts to hold it down.

I have them next to each other, with the 3 (2 from the 4 and 1 of the 2) posts in a line. If you know what I mean. Both are Single phase but They will not be used ofen, just more to store cars in the air.

[Hally]

What are the rough delivery & installation costs for the Tufflift hoists?

[GSP07R]

Best contact them.

There is one based in Melbourne.

[davenl5l]

You can also order a harder blend of concrete to take extra weight.

[NTF6]

It's pointless doing 150mm concrete throughout the whole shed, that's just wasting money. Decide on a location and just do the bay where the hoist is in 150 or even just go 150 where the hoist footprint is but ensure that the strengthened 150 sections also have 16mm rebar in the footing not just f72 mesh over the top.

[GSP07R]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Syco I just finished installing two hoists in my garage, both from Tufflift.
The 4 post is good because it doesn't need to be bolted down, plus it comes with wheels so it can be moved when unloaded.
The two post needed 10 x 3/4" dyna bolts to hold it down.

I have them next to each other, with the 3 (2 from the 4 and 1 of the 2) posts in a line. If you know what I mean. Both are Single phase but They will not be used ofen, just more to store cars in the air.

Have you got a picture of the 4 post?

Di you get the jack for it as well?

Thanks

[snowcone]

I bought a 4 post from this company in Melbourne
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-Post-Ca...UAAOSw0vBUcahR
I dealt direct with them and the whole thing cost just under $3K delivered to Newcastle.
240volt and I put it together on my own in about 6 hours.
Doesn't need a pad or bolting down and came with wheels too.

I have my Customline on top and my Thunderbird parked under it

[syco26]

Thanks for all the replies. The shed is going to be 3.6 at the eves so I am hoping a two post will fit in off set to one side. May need to look at getting 4m at the eaves to be on the safe side.

bartaxr8 that set up looks good mate. I had 3 phase run when we put our house in as I knew you would be getting a hoist or two down the track. I also ran it for a big industrial swampy I have to go in there to try to make working in there in summer bearable.

NTF6 was thinking the same. Spoke to my concreter and he is all over it and had suggested very similar.

Would love one of these instead of a 4 post.

[Top_Ghia]

3.6 is plenty.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by snowcone

I bought a 4 post from this company in Melbourne
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-Post-Ca...UAAOSw0vBUcahR
I dealt direct with them and the whole thing cost just under $3K delivered to Newcastle.
240volt and I put it together on my own in about 6 hours.
Doesn't need a pad or bolting down and came with wheels too.

I have my Customline on top and my Thunderbird parked under it

That does not look like an Australian Standards Hoist (at least it does not mention it), it says Asian Approved, but they also work on bamboo scaffolding wearing thongs with no safety gear.

There is no way in the world I would buy, put my car on or even consider going near a non Australian complied and Work Cover approved hoist.

I will be buying two hoists shortly, and I made my slab according to the manufacturers recommendation, not forum recommendation.

My shed will have the two hoists as soon as you drive into the shed next to each other, workshop, workbenches and tools will be in front of the hoists under the mezzanine floor.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Here you can see the mezzanine floor when the shed was getting build, it's 4 x 7 meters and the two bays in front are 8 x 3.5 meters each. So the shed is 12 metres deep. Build the biggest shed you can afford and fit on your land within reason, as they are never big enough. Mine can store 6 cars easily and still have a workshop and it's full now, and I really need more space.





The outside, you can still see the landscaping before the grass grows back. Overall size is 14 metres wide and 12 metres deep:

[syco26]

I would love a shed that size. I have the land for one but unfortunately not the funds for one that size. I am planning on doing an extension the same size off the rear in a few years time if money permits then but for now it is a 9x12.

[GSP07R]

XB GS. whats the angle of the slope from the top of the hill. do you get much rain where you are?

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by GSP07R

Have you got a picture of the 4 post?

Di you get the jack for it as well?

Thanks

I do mate. Just need to post it

[STINKY NINJA]

Damn those pics of sheds are awesome,im jealous.

[LTDHO]

There's two pix GSP07R

[GSP07R]

Cheers LTDHO.

Is the 4 post at the max height or could it go higher?
What is the clearance underneath?

[Franco Cozzo]

I've got an older Tecalemit 4 poster in my workshop, ours is dynabolted into the ground at the back of the workshop, in line with the workshop roller door, so its just a matter of into the shop and onto the hoist.

You have to be careful, make sure its secured properly, I would not be getting under a hoist that is not secured to the floor, absolutely no way.

We were looking at a Tufflift hoist, reasonably priced, our Bursons rep suggested them to us, but when we come time to get ourselves a 2 poster, we need something a bit bigger unfortunately.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by GSP07R

XB GS. whats the angle of the slope from the top of the hill. do you get much rain where you are?

No idea what the angle is, we made a level pad when the shed got build, and it the got piers going into natural ground. had to bring in about 250 tonnes of fill.

I have heaps of photos but don't want to spam this thread, will throw some up anyway.

We get heaps of rain our property is at Port Macquarie, it's got proper drainage, never had any issues with water.

Building the pad :



Back of shed when getting build, the space at back is for water tanks:



side view with water tanks installed:

[hendrixhc]

Mine was an autolift hoist and as above i assembled it myself with the use of an engine crane in a day.



It comes with wheels but i have bolted it down for added security.











All up was $2950 delivered from Perth to Adelaide. Only took 3 days from order to delivery.

[syco26]

Love that shed XB GS.

Looks the goods Hendrixhc. Pretty good price as well, especially from Pert to Adelaide.

One of my biggest issues is I am rather tall, 2cm shy of 2m, so I need a descent lift. Either that or sit on my but on a seat under the car while it is up in the air.

[hendrixhc]

Thats the only down fall of my setup. Cant go right up height wise. I can stand under the Xe near the diff but other than that i sit a stool and work on the underside.

Either way its the single most best purchase i made for the shed.

The crossbeam in the first photo has been removed since the first photo and the car does go up another 2 feet. The bed ends up roughly where the hydraulic bottle top is.

[LyleXR8]

my mate has his set up off on an angle so can drive straight through if needed or veer right onto the hoist, then has the front right hand corner setup as the work area with benches and tools etc setup along the front and side right hand wall, that triangle area is plenty for tinkering