Should all performance cars should be banned?

Since many people here believe that you should create a law to target a minority group among road users as long as:
-The new law doesn't directly hurt anyone
- It may prevent some deaths

If the following things are assumed to be facts:
- Performance cars are more difficult to drive
- There is a % of irresponsible people in all age groups
- There is a % of unskilled drivers in all age groups
- you may get an exemption if you must tow heavy items
- no exemptions for hobbyists or people who participate in track days or legal drags
- A performance car is deffined as 125kw/1000kg or a v8 or turbo over 100kw/1000kg

Do you think high powered cars should be outlawed based on this?
Post if you agree or disagree and if you drive a car that could be considered a performance car.

Personaly I don't agree with this because I don't think people should give away freedoms for a tiny increase in safety, I drive a car that is probably considered a performance car.

[merlin]

Originally Posted by lizardmech

If the following things are assumed to be facts:
- There is a % of irresponsible people in all age groups
- There is a % of unskilled drivers in all age groups
.

Maybe they should just ban them for young drivers - I mean these percentagees are much higher in the under 25 age group - just ask NRMA. :

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by merlin

Maybe they should just ban them for young drivers - I mean these percentagees are much higher in the under 25 age group - just ask NRMA. :

That sure sounds like a plan, wonder if someone has already though of it?

[merlin]

Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

That sure sounds like a plan, wonder if someone has already though of it?

[/sarcasm off]
i'm not sure mate...maybe lizardmech can tell us? :

[LUXO_8]

definatley not.
im a strong believer to the fact that it is not the car but the driver.
these people would crash an XR8 or an echo

driver training should be manditory for all

No ones interested in answering?

[merlin]

Originally Posted by lizardmech

No ones interested in answering?

i will if you add an option saying:

"yes, for immature dipsh!ts on P plates"

[Citric GT]

These do-gooders need to realise that accidents will happen and people will die. Its a fact of life, they need to get over it.

I propose we go the other way and lift all speed limits and reward drivers for good burnouts etc...

Originally Posted by merlin

i will if you add an option saying:

"yes, for immature dipsh!ts on P plates"

This is a separate issue.

[MRJUCY]

It's impossible to define what a performance car is & it's also wrong that a car is harder to drive because it has high levels of performance in fact in many ways they're often easier as they have a higher threshold for driver error.

Originally Posted by MRJUCY

It's impossible to define what a performance car is & it's also wrong that a car is harder to drive because it has high levels of performance in fact in many ways they're often easier as they have a higher threshold for driver error.

Sorry, I forgot to add what defines a performance car ill ad it to the original post.

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by Citric XR6

These do-gooders need to realise that accidents will happen and people will die. Its a fact of life, they need to get over it.

How do you get over dieing? I dont think they ever found a cure!! :

[Walkinshaw]

Originally Posted by lizardmech

If the following things are assumed to be facts:
- Performance cars are more difficult to drive

My mates XR6T is 30x easier to drive and 32.766x safer than a friends 1997 Excel

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by lizardmech

Sorry, I forgot to add what defines a performance car ill ad it to the original post.

Good idea, I had already glossed over most of it when I saw the avatar and theme. Thanks it wont waste any of my time... in fact grammer checking the title I may have been better glossing over the whole thread.

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

My mates XR6T is 30x easier to drive and 32.766x safer than a friends 1997 Excel

Perhaps, but for the purpose of this thread lets just assume they are more dangerous.

[XLS99 Ute man]

Haha, what a stuiped poll, seriously...
(i voted no)

[Citric GT]

Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

How do you get over dieing? I dont think they ever found a cure!! :

You don't. You get over the fact that people have accidents and get injured or die. Its part of life. No mater what rules are forced on to people, it will continue to happen.

[MITCHAY]

How about banning people from driving performance cars with a bad driving history? That way the people who are "hoons" and in their 30s will be treated no differently to an 18yr old.

[Laminge]

I dont see the point of the poll, not because I do own a performance car, but becuase if one believes that they have control of their vehicle in any circumstance and is comfortable in that knowledge, regardless of vehicle type, then they are not only a bigger fool than I can say, but they are danger to all.

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by lizardmech

Since many people here believe that you should create a law to target a minority group among road users as long as:
-The new law doesn't directly hurt anyone
- It may prevent some deaths

If the following things are assumed to be facts:
- Performance cars are more difficult to drive
- There is a % of irresponsible people in all age groups
- There is a % of unskilled drivers in all age groups
- you may get an exemption if you must tow heavy items
- no exemptions for hobbyists or people who participate in track days or legal drags

Do you think high powered cars should be outlawed based on this?
Post if you agree or disagree and if you drive a car that could be considered a performance car.

Personaly I don't agree with this because I don't think people should give away freedoms for a tiny increase in safety, I drive a car that is probably considered a performance car.

Still having a tantrum are we mate? Didnt get enough chest beating in the other thread? Boo bloody Hoo, a P plater wouldnt be able to drive a Performance Car for a year or two. TRAGEDY. But I got a good idea for you. Because you cant think up an argument, produce facts or a logical train of thought, why not just deflect the argument into something else totally misleading and unrealistic so you can sit back and gloat over what a big man you have become.

Driving a Car is not a right nor a freedom. Its granted by the government after you satisfy their testing regime. And if they decide someone who has only just achieved their P's cannot drive a performance car, the said P Plater, wont die, combust, implode or detonate. They would just have to be patient. Now theres a Bloody great first lesson for a P Plater wouldnt you think?

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

How about banning people from driving performance cars with a bad driving history? That way the people who are "hoons" and in their 30s will be treated no differently to an 18yr old.

Great idea Mitchay, one of your best! :

Anyone killing themselves in a car they could not handle, will automatically have their license revised, to prohibit them from driving fast cars. :

Thats like only providing the intruction guide for a circualar saw at the casulty ward!

[MITCHAY]

You dont have to die to have a bad driving history. Speeding, burnouts all counts as bad driving history.

[EFIwindsor]

If they ban performance cars from young people/P platers when they get off their P's they'll have more money and be able to buy/build better cars. So the at risk bracket will move from 17-25 to 20-25

Althought i wonder how many of these Tools that drive like d"heads actually build there cars or whether they pay for them to be built...that is if the cars have any modifications.Example the 4 teenagers that died over the weekend were in a Stock 1991 Falcon which would not be considered a performance car.

I think if you build A car you'll appreciate it more and look after it better.

That's my opinion (for what it's work) my Dad and I have done 98% the work on my XW

[merlin]

Mwhahahha this thread is l-o-l funny.

Originally Posted by sourbastard

Still having a tantrum are we mate? Didnt get enough chest beating in the other thread? Boo bloody Hoo, a P plater wouldnt be able to drive a Performance Car for a year or two. TRAGEDY. But I got a good idea for you. Because you cant think up an argument, produce facts or a logical train of thought, why not just deflect the argument into something else totally misleading and unrealistic so you can sit back and gloat over what a big man you have become.

Driving a Car is not a right nor a freedom. Its granted by the government after you satisfy their testing regime. And if they decide someone who has only just achieved their P's cannot drive a performance car, the said P Plater, wont die, combust, implode or detonate. They would just have to be patient. Now theres a Bloody great first lesson for a P Plater wouldnt you think?

What does this have to do with this thread? I was curious to see peoples opinions on making laws that may increase safety but reduce their freedom to do something they specifically enjoy.

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

You dont have to die to have a bad driving history. Speeding, burnouts all counts as bad driving history.

And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to work out its a bad idea to give chimps access to machine guns, and then try and sort out which of them are firing live rounds.

[niko]

which clown said yes? :P

[Racecraft]

I voted yes, because it was lonely sitting on zero

[Laminge]

Thread moved btw., the Bar is for Non Car Related Chit Chat, the Pub is for Car Chit Chat, thank god you didnt start it in the performance forums, we would all have smacked into the local lamp post by now!

[AdzT3-146]

Originally Posted by lizardmech

Perhaps, but for the purpose of this thread lets just assume they are more dangerous.

you can't just overlook the fact that new performance cars have much better safety features than a lot of the 4cyl hatchbacks gettin around.