Windows Vista, what do you think?

Jeeepers · 26-05-2006, 08:54 PM

Just got a Beta 2 Build 5365 of Vista... Fairly impressed so far, aside from a few annoyances and renavigating, all good I say!

Grechie · 26-05-2006, 09:07 PM

ill buy the full wen it comes out, but cbf with the betas, to buggy n cant play games as good

PH47 · 27-05-2006, 12:52 PM

Is it as useless as it seems on paper? Eg.. Windows with a Skin? or is it actually worth the switch?

JTFG · 27-05-2006, 01:09 PM

Hmmm is it worth installing the beta? and is it compatable with the common drivers and etc?

XA-Coupe · 27-05-2006, 01:40 PM

Does it have a Classic interface or will I be forced to get with the times ??

I'm waiting till it's released, XP will be around a while until I am happy with Vista.. probably SP1 within 2 weeks of launch !

Full Spectrum · 27-05-2006, 03:18 PM

Vista will finally make the 64 go at full speed, And also make older PC's run with some extra speed, It will be to XP what XP was to Win95.
Right now you only get half the speed of the 64bit CPU's, Vista will be the prefect time to take advantage of the 64bit world.
I'll hold back for 12 months for it.

charles_wif_xf · 27-05-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickHolden

Vista will finally make the 64 go at full speed, And also make older PC's run with some extra speed, It will be to XP what XP was to Win95.
Right now you only get half the speed of the 64bit CPU's, Vista will be the prefect time to take advantage of the 64bit world.
I'll hold back for 12 months for it.

I'll believe it when I see it. Linux 64-bit distro's are just fine for me.

Full Spectrum · 27-05-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

I'll believe it when I see it. Linux 64-bit distro's are just fine for me.

Look me up in 12months then

Jeeepers · 27-05-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PH47

Is it as useless as it seems on paper? Eg.. Windows with a Skin? or is it actually worth the switch?

Cosmetics are just the skin "pardon the pun" So much under the bonnet of this one. It's almost a total rebuild. Desktop is totally accelerated for one thing. Very resource hungry, but every upgrade has been hungry for power. My P4 with HT at 3.0ghz, Geforce 6600GT, Sata, and 1gig ram system rates 3 with the internal benchmarking. I dare say, a kick *** puter is needed for a rating of 1. If that's how I read it. Basically, if your machine is up to it, very much worth the switch.

Jeeepers · 27-05-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by j0nni

Hmmm is it worth installing the beta? and is it compatable with the common drivers and etc?

I have it installed on my storage drive. Bigpond software worked straight up, as has a few games I like. Had to install Vista drivers for my Audigy 2 from Creative. Most decent hardware suppliers have drivers available for Vista. Early days for me yet to remark on stabilty, but after 3 days of running under varying conditions, no crashes or hassles. But I wouldn't recommend wiping your only drive to install. Just run it on a spare.

Jeeepers · 27-05-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

Does it have a Classic interface or will I be forced to get with the times ??

I'm waiting till it's released, XP will be around a while until I am happy with Vista.. probably SP1 within 2 weeks of launch !

As far as the beta goes, all modes available. From classic to aero.

XA-Coupe · 27-05-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by redfin

As far as the beta goes, all modes available. From classic to aero.

cool... I tried the XP native look and it just jacked me off... classic works for me.

Josh_XC · 27-05-2006, 08:15 PM

the requirements are a bit harsh to run the aero engine wat is it requires a 128 mb card just to run the OS. The good thing is though once this comes out it will push direct x 10 as well as a jump in graphics cards and prices to accomidate the vista environment. Ive had the beta for bout 5 or so months now, not to many problems and it is very well integrated.

Also Live anywhere thing will be awesome as

Paris Hilton · 27-05-2006, 09:28 PM

Tried it, it was alright I suppose, but it looks like i'll be sticking with OSX and see if Vistas replacement is worth the switch.

the_scotsman · 28-05-2006, 12:15 AM

Ive been beta testing this along with Office 2007 for a while now....I recently installed the latest build on a dual boot with XP...found it was so good, Ive just got rid of XP, so running Vista as the main OS...it runs so good on my system...games play just as good, if not BETTER than XP....Im loving it...

Falcon Freak · 28-05-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh_XC

the requirements are a bit harsh to run the aero engine wat is it requires a 128 mb card just to run the OS.

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When is Vista due to be released?

FF

YuGoStaR · 28-05-2006, 12:40 AM

At the moment, it looks like January next year is the official release.

M14A-Mclaren · 28-05-2006, 12:48 AM

Anyone got any info, as in the stuff Microsoft will be telling you is good about it but really won't be that fantastic after a week.

70caprigt3k · 28-05-2006, 02:48 AM

As far as im concerned windows will never change and why pay for a half-assed os when you can get a susbstantially better operating system for free i.e. Linux, i switched and havent looked back its far more stable, secure and much more powerful so as for vista its just another windows os that i wont be paying for.

the_scotsman · 28-05-2006, 09:20 AM

You can't really call Linux "a substantially better operating system"...what is your justification for that ?
EVEN though Windows costs a fair amount of money and Linux is free, why is Windows the most popular OS? People must be happy enough with it...

ronwest · 28-05-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by the_scotsman

why is Windows the most popular OS? People must be happy enough with it...

...because it usually comes pre-installed and your average Joe can't be bothered fixing something that as far as they know works ok?

I played around with it a bit at the early Longhorn stage and could see then that the hype would far exceed the end result.

Anyhoo, without turning it into an MS bash, I revisited Vista (Beta 5365) this weekend.

It has improved a lot in the last 12 months. Bloatware extraordinaire, but I think your average punter will be impressed when it finally hits the stands.

Funnily enough, the major problem I had with early Longhorn was a difficulty in setting up my network/inet access. This weekends play with Vista had exactly the same probs. Had to use 3 year old network adapter drivers to get onto the internet and just could not get my LAN recognised (ApphangB1).

Yes, yes...I know its beta, but I thought that may have improved given the time they've been frigging around with it, lol.

I'll wait until Service Pack 3 before I get too excited ;)

the_scotsman · 28-05-2006, 08:10 PM

fair enough!

70caprigt3k · 28-05-2006, 08:17 PM

It is a substantially better operating system the reliability/stability and program base make it a much better operating system than windows, the list goes on but that being said as ronwest said above as far as the average user knows it works so why fix it which is fine as for user friendlyness windows wins but for me i prefer something that i can rely on and that gives my total control over what is happening with the operating system, not just what im allowed to control.

ronwest · 28-05-2006, 08:26 PM

Finally found the quote I was looking for. It's an oldie, but one to which we can relate

http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gates2.htm

XA-Coupe · 28-05-2006, 08:30 PM

I am into linux in a small way and I don't think it is better than windows as a desktop operating system, in fact I believe it's inferior in every way.
As a server I think the days of NT4 Vs Linux bred this attitude of windows instability. Server 2000 and 2003 can run as long as linux as long as the apps are correctly written. The other downside is the obsession with CLI and making everything so hard to do. Before you disagree, it's my experience with 21 windoze servers, 1 SCO unix and 2 linux servers. The windows aervers needs the same amount as attention as any others, no more.
I don't love M$ but I also know any form of Linux is not the be all and end all of OSs like some evangelists..

Falcon Freak · 28-05-2006, 08:36 PM

I hope Vista has 'active' wallpapers. That is, dynamic rather than static backgrounds.

FF

70caprigt3k · 28-05-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

I am into linux in a small way and I don't think it is better than windows as a desktop operating system, in fact I believe it's inferior in every way.
As a server I think the days of NT4 Vs Linux bred this attitude of windows instability. Server 2000 and 2003 can run as long as linux as long as the apps are correctly written. The other downside is the obsession with CLI and making everything so hard to do. Before you disagree, it's my experience with 21 windoze servers, 1 SCO unix and 2 linux servers. The windows aervers needs the same amount as attention as any others, no more.
I don't love M$ but I also know any form of Linux is not the be all and end all of OSs like some evangelists..

Yeah i do agree with you, Linux is not the be all and end all of OSe's it does have its flaws i.e compatability both hardware and software and its far from perfect. As a server i do agree that both would need about as much attention as each other and the server counterpart of windows 2000 an Windows server 2003 are actually decent.

S3SR · 29-05-2006, 09:32 AM

which linux are yous talking about....Linux is indestructable theres millions of versions and types and things but the one ive been using is Gentoo and its compatible with everything i wont list everything cause itll take days....
but theres nothing wrong with linux thats for sure

Gentoo must be written from scratch so the OS and software is completely up to you - 700 hours and counting

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vista was crap as when i got the Longhorn version more graphics and pretty pictures - just means half the computer power will be for the OS i also seen an early version of vista a little better than longhorn though i like that name longhorn more....as soon as theres a final version im getting it just think itll be like having an AUIII - excellent all round with its flaws then upgrading to a 2002 BA XT - dodgy as the first falcon but somewhat better and more refined

70caprigt3k · 29-05-2006, 05:58 PM

I use Fedora Core 5 and havent had any problems at all bar one being that i cant play WMP9 WMV's but thats not soley a problem with linux. I have looked into gentoo but i couldnt get a decent mirror to get it from but i will give it a shot as it looks like a pretty decent distro.

XA-Coupe · 29-05-2006, 06:49 PM

ATthe risk of this turning into a pro linux thread... I sort of recently tried Ubuntu. This is as close to an acceptable desktop Linux OS I have seen in that it's quite easy to navigate and most of the stuff is easy to change. Fedora FC2 is good...FC3 killed the computer it was installed on and now FC5 is out I need to find a donor machine to try it out on.
I am far from a guru but I can find my way around okay. It's different enough to make it enjoyable after playing with Windows most of the day .. infuriating when I want to do something and can't figure it out

If vista improves over XP as XP did over W2k then it should be good.. but I learned ages ago not to play with beta or RC versions.

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