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Old 28-10-2006, 06:50 AM   #91
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I'll whinge as much as the next person due to the fact that

BF2 FPV are only a shaddow of what they could be
Force = overpriced 1/2 arsed grange attempt

However, like 95% of the people who are crying in this thread, as much as we would like to believe it we are NOT, NOT FPV's target audience. So why bother ;)
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Old 28-10-2006, 06:59 AM   #92
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Regarding the engineering approval debate. The comments above where engineering needs to be sorted a good 3yrs prior to delivery of a new model. If everyone remembers, 3-5yrs ago Ford wasn't doing exceptionaly well....Do you think short model run designs and engineering would have been looked favourable upon by management(Aus and US)?
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Old 28-10-2006, 07:07 AM   #93
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Woohoo, so FPV have at least one potential sale for a rebaged GHIA/GT hybrid parts-bin-monstrosity :
you read my mind
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Old 28-10-2006, 07:29 AM   #94
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Regarding the engineering approval debate. The comments above where engineering needs to be sorted a good 3yrs prior to delivery of a new model. If everyone remembers, 3-5yrs ago Ford wasn't doing exceptionaly well....Do you think short model run designs and engineering would have been looked favourable upon by management(Aus and US)?
I don’t think there is much debate. My comment was more to do with the outward appearance that Ford have been doing nothing with product development. Gaining approval isn't the start it actually closer to the finish as demonstrated by Sak in his interview. The FPV Territory engineering has been complete or words to the affect. That gives an insight into how the business is run. It terms of the financial situation, it’s probably worse now then when Orion was started. The bigger question will be how well Ford have interpreted the market and its requirements for the year 2008.

As we head into Orion that has to be a concern for certain aspects of competitiveness. Ford and FPV haven't been transparent with their direction. Holden and HSV have been. That’s why Tom is able to say there were no surprises with VE. There shouldn't have been either because a blind man could see the product evolution at play. Not so at Ford or FPV. We basically have no idea what direction and what ideas they are working on and for sure the global situation at Ford wouldn't be helping in this period of development.

Supposedly there is an article where Tom paints a grim picture. Not sure if he gives an indication regarding the impact of this uncertainty to the business case here in Australia and its respective impact on Orion.

They say actions speak louder the words. Putting that into perspective for Orion, recent action might not bode well for enthusiast expectations, especially for the V8 brigade but I am yet to read the “Wheels” article where the deficiencies of the Boss are supposedly clearly aired.
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