Assembly line, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE???

[mowog]

Originally Posted by arm79

Yes, you're brand new cars are hammered on a dyno before they even leave the factory. ;)

All engines get a WOT check as well...

[arm79]

Originally Posted by mowog

All engines get a WOT check as well...

That among other things such as a speedo accuracy check and cruise control check.

Oh and I forgot, I saw a BF2 Ghia in Williamstown last night.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by arm79

hahaha... You dont have to work for Ford to realise that is wrong. The dealer is making excuses.

Take the Ford factory tour and watch as your silver Ghia rolls down the line behind a yellow taxi with an orange Territory behind it. Followed by a green egas ute and a blue XT.

Chances are the dealer has ordered a stock of red and white that is available for immediate delivery and he was trying to talk you into taking one of those. Gets him his commission and sales tally up in December, rather than sometime next year.

Spot on. They don't build cars in batches.

Don't believe a word dealers say, half of them wouldn't know their **** from their elbow. Obviously just trying to sell him one they have already ordered.

[kiwikid10]

As stated by others,

I used to work for XXXXX who make the cough* rear end for the falcon and both front and rear for the territory. Each car rolling down the line is different as XXXXX has to supply the correct rear end to match the car, e.g a 3.45 LSD for a XR followed by a 3.77 open for a territory etc etc. All the cars are paint batched,(note: when they do a paint run it is say silver, but they do all body types,sedan,ute and terry) however they are then held in the roof of the paint shop and as each individual order is required the body is released to assembly where all the parts are fitted, as each car gets to a certain point it sends a signal to XXXXX calling for a specific rear end, this is then programmed at XXXXX and built, (2 hour notice from memory). The rear end is then delivered on special stillage direct to the line and the SIDO numbers should in theory match and the correct rear end is fitted to the car, 1st the XR then the territory etc etc.
So in short as stated the dealer has ordered cars for stock and is hoping that you want the most popular colour (Red or White), if not, you have to get in line behind everybody else. And as for the 1st BF Ghia, sorry Ford execs will have them, followed by Ford suppliers who need them for ongoing testing, and good friends of Sales guys at the factory. Example the MD of XXXXX recieved his Turbo Territory Ghia 1 week after they were released. This was not pre-ordered either, just a simple phone call to Ford and the car jumps the rest of the populations orders.
BTW Ford pumps out about 480 cars a day depending on model mix, It has dropped due to lack of demand, Hence the retrenchments at Ford Broadmedows and Geelong.

[05MkIIFutura]

But am I right in assuming that there would be certain times when Ford pump out standard cars without options to get their volume out to the fleets and then run a batch of customised Falcons, or can a Fairmont with all the boxes ticked sit between 10 bog standard XT's??

I would have thought with procurement the way it is they would try and build the easy, fast standard spec models quickly and then do the customs??

[Sundeep]

So much mythical crap about how the factory works in this thread.

I worked there for 3 weeks of work experience and saw everything, someone said the car becomes a rolling shell before the engine and trans are fitted.. made me a laugh.

Sundeep

[05MkIIFutura]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dose

So much mythical crap about how the factory works in this thread.

I worked there for 3 weeks of work experience and saw everything, someone said the car becomes a rolling shell before the engine and trans are fitted.. made me a laugh.

Sundeep

Happy to hear how it really works mate, we prob dont need the insults tho. They are mean.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by james22

know all ay..... thats what the ford dealer told me personally.... when I asked why it was taking so long. He said they were made in batches and they were not currently doing silver. They said if i wanted it quicker I could choose red or white as that was what they were currently producing. I told them to get bent and that I would wait seeming as that is the colour we wanted. and our Ghia was THE FIRST BF MKIII GHIA MADE. AND THE FIRST ORDERED.

Straight from the horses mouth mate.... ing_sm

So ur telling me im wrong, yet another 10 people here agree with me.

Real bright. :hihi:

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by xcgxl

Ordered my mazda SP23, they built it in Japan, freighted it to Australia and I had it in 5 weeks from the time I placed my order. And the month I bought mine the dealer told me that they (one dealer) had sold 300 Mazda 3s that MONTH. And you don't hear of warranty, quality control issues or recalls on those. And Mazda is owned by Ford so what are Ford Australia doing?

Mazda Build cars differently to Ford/Holden/BMW. They build on large quantity and even build lower spec and higher spec cars on different lines. The Japanes can do this, but I'm sure they would struggle if they had to build cars like Ford do. Also the Mazda 3 had the problem with the rear tires getting premature wear (the tread looked like a barber pole) and also noises from the rear coming into the cabin.

Originally Posted by arm79

FPV haven't done sunroofs for a long time. AU's were the last. They are generally farmed out to local companies. Prestige and Ultra Cool being a couple of the biger players.

FPV still do sunroofs (well on Terri's anyway)

Originally Posted by joolz

Arm was spot on how the assembly works, one thing that was forgotten was the car itself has to sit in the yard to settle so to speak. I find it quite funny how people tell you how things go without ever seeing how its done. I go to Ford on a weekly basis and have been to FPV several times.

Cars dont sit in the yard to settle unless they're part of a quality program. They go thru a squeek and rattle track and if it's good to ship out they go to the shipping yard, once they're there Ford arnt allowed to touch them with out premission.

Originally Posted by 05MkIIFutura

But am I right in assuming that there would be certain times when Ford pump out standard cars without options to get their volume out to the fleets and then run a batch of customised Falcons, or can a Fairmont with all the boxes ticked sit between 10 bog standard XT's??

I would have thought with procurement the way it is they would try and build the easy, fast standard spec models quickly and then do the customs??

Yes Ford do build cars for stock but not in batches of same colour. Each day they see what cars are required to fill the gaps.

Originally Posted by Mr. Dose

So much mythical crap about how the factory works in this thread.

I worked there for 3 weeks of work experience and saw everything, someone said the car becomes a rolling shell before the engine and trans are fitted.. made me a laugh.

When did you do 3 weeks work experiance? And if you think you learnt it all than your so off the mark. The engine, transmission, driveshaft and diff are sub assembled and the shell of the car (that has most of the interior and exterior) is lowered (and the engine, etc is lifted) and the car is put together. Than a few extra things are bolted on and it goes thru the underbody check. The car than gets it's wheels on, battery, programming, some interior bits are finished off, coolant than the final check before it goes thru the big quality check area.

[Redrum]

From my days at Ford, going back 6 years, it would take around 3 weeks to get the car started in body build, then off to paint shop, who in those days worked two shifts I think, on to the PUS, then on to the assembly line. From memory it took less than 2/3 hours to go through the trim lines and come out the factory at the other end. Then depended on the model. If it had to go to Tickford, or went to the dealership. Usually it took me around 1 month in AU days to receive a XR6 from order date. Took less for a Futura.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Mazda Build cars differently to Ford/Holden/BMW. They build on large quantity and even build lower spec and higher spec cars on different lines. The Japanes can do this, but I'm sure they would struggle if they had to build cars like Ford do. Also the Mazda 3 had the problem with the rear tires getting premature wear (the tread looked like a barber pole) and also noises from the rear coming into the cabin.




FPV still do sunroofs (well on Terri's anyway)



Cars dont sit in the yard to settle unless they're part of a quality program. They go thru a squeek and rattle track and if it's good to ship out they go to the shipping yard, once they're there Ford arnt allowed to touch them with out premission.



Yes Ford do build cars for stock but not in batches of same colour. Each day they see what cars are required to fill the gaps.




When did you do 3 weeks work experiance? And if you think you learnt it all than your so off the mark. The engine, transmission, driveshaft and diff are sub assembled and the shell of the car (that has most of the interior and exterior) is lowered (and the engine, etc is lifted) and the car is put together. Than a few extra things are bolted on and it goes thru the underbody check. The car than gets it's wheels on, battery, programming, some interior bits are finished off, coolant than the final check before it goes thru the big quality check area.

Territory gets sunroofs ey?

Thats a new one.

I think Territories go to FPV to have side steps, bullbars and body kits fitted.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

Territory gets sunroofs ey?

Thats a new one.

I think Territories go to FPV to have side steps, bullbars and body kits fitted.

I was sure I was told they still do, i dont really spend any time at FPV.

[AU2PWR]

we went on the Last Factory tour and yeah its all OK ,

Territorys & South African Models Get Sunroofs and Cigarette Kits Fitted at FPV ,

Cars are Lowered onto Engines , then Quality Checked

[YOOT]

If you bought a BA or recent Falcon you would have gotten half a dozen photos of your car on the assembly line, and one of them shows the body dropping on to the engine and tranny.

Mine were shit images though.

[Sm0kinup]

Originally Posted by YOOT

If you bought a BA or recent Falcon you would have gotten half a dozen photos of your car on the assembly line, and one of them shows the body dropping on to the engine and tranny.

Mine were shit images though.

How did you get these photos do they send them to you or what?
And yeah my sunroof is an aftermarket one that the dealership will do itself.
So many replies on here though my gestamit is that ill have it in another two weeks!! lets hope!!!

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by SR_AU

we went on the Last Factory tour and yeah its all OK ,

Territorys & South African Models Get Sunroofs and Cigarette Kits Fitted at FPV ,

Cars are Lowered onto Engines , then Quality Checked

South African Territories get Sunroofs Fitted?

Yet we cannot get them fitted here on Australian Models. WTF is going on there FORD?

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by Sm0kinup

How did you get these photos do they send them to you or what?
And yeah my sunroof is an aftermarket one that the dealership will do itself.
So many replies on here though my gestamit is that ill have it in another two weeks!! lets hope!!!

You log onto their website with your order number and password.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by arm79

hahaha... You dont have to work for Ford to realise that is wrong. The dealer is making excuses.

Take the Ford factory tour and watch as your silver Ghia rolls down the line behind a yellow taxi with an orange Territory behind it. Followed by a green egas ute and a blue XT.

.

Yes... cars are definately not in batches or colour order..
Here's my Pursuit being built.. Note silver sedan ahead.

[Sm0kinup]

Originally Posted by xcgxl

You log onto their website with your order number and password.

Sorry im slow in that department what is the url and where do I log in, youve got me all excited

:Up_to_som

[Smoke Pursuit]

That finished over 18 months ago.

You cannot view pics anymore, im sad i never kept my AUIII XR6 VCT pics :(

[Sm0kinup]

Ford rang me today car is being railed here from adelaide right now, im so happy, should have it in 4 to 6 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!