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Old 20-04-2005, 11:24 AM   #1
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Scrap fuel taxes, pay per km: expert
April 20, 2005 - 10:49AM

Australia should consider scrapping fuel taxes and introduce a national kilometre-based charge for all vehicles, a transport expert says.

The proposal comes just weeks after federal Transport Minister John Anderson flagged introducing a toll on the Pacific Highway between Sydney and Brisbane to enlist the finances of private companies to fund a dual carriageway.

Institute of Transport and Logistics Studies (ITLS) director Professor David Hensher told a transport seminar kilometre-based charges were much more efficient.

The user-pays scheme, based on the weight of a vehicle and the distance it travels would use global positioning system (GPS) technology to track vehicle movements, Prof Hensher told AAP after the seminar.

Germany had introduced the system in all its freight trucks and Oregon in the United States was trialling the scheme in passenger cars...
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Old 20-04-2005, 11:28 AM   #2
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I like the "Scrap fuel taxes" bit, the rest im not keen on!
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Old 20-04-2005, 11:31 AM   #3
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In the end, we are all gonna get screwed by them anyways, whichever the system they use...
Even tho we vote, is it really gonna make a difference? i think not..
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Old 20-04-2005, 12:15 PM   #4
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Put the GPS system in under the guise of "Fuel taxes" and proceed to use it for busting peoples asses for missbehaving. nice. Bring on 1984. (George Orwell book, Big Brother and all that crap...)
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Old 20-04-2005, 12:31 PM   #5
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Two simple words.

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Old 20-04-2005, 01:17 PM   #6
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Old 20-04-2005, 01:22 PM   #7
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no i dont think so either. think about the reliability of the system. i would imagine there is a body that collects all this data for each car/truck and records it on PC. now you know what government bodies and computers are like. you could find yourself paying for 20000 extra Kms that you didnt travel, then YOU have to go and prove otherwise.
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Old 20-04-2005, 01:24 PM   #8
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If they scrap fuel taxes, then you can be certain the new user pays system based on mileage will leave you worse off. Every time they seek to revise the system and introduce a "user pays" system - the people get screwed. The high users pay more and lower users pay the same as before
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Old 20-04-2005, 01:39 PM   #9
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People miss the small things.

GPS tracking systems. hrrm first on cars then people.

can also monitor speed :
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Old 20-04-2005, 01:43 PM   #10
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Great idea...NOT. I'm sure people in remote areas of NT will be really happy their 600km round trip just to buy groceries will cost them even more now.
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Old 20-04-2005, 02:21 PM   #11
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And Poor uni students with loans who have to drive some 200 kays most days just to get their education........

Great idea ****ers.... just great.
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Old 20-04-2005, 05:36 PM   #12
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Cool, I'll just take the tracking device off, chuck it in an under ground carpark somewhere and move it every few days.
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Old 20-04-2005, 05:38 PM   #13
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Nup! Don't like it. I drive alot of country miles so it's probably more expense than now.
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bah another academic trying to use baseless theory and introduce it into the real world guranteeing it will work.
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Old 20-04-2005, 06:19 PM   #15
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People miss the small things.

GPS tracking systems. hrrm first on cars then people.

can also monitor speed :
Thats what I was implying....

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and proceed to use it for busting peoples asses for missbehaving
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but.... most of us use more fuel per km than other drivers... so we might end up a bit better off...

doubt it tho.
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