Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Club and Speciality Forums > Forum Community Car Clubs > AU Falcon.com.au

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-05-2007, 10:06 PM   #1
mattbl
Regular Member
 
mattbl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 125
Default Au transmission help

Hi all

I have a problem with my AU transmission (S1 Ghia). When you start it up and take off it jumps out of drive into neutral, and stays there until either the revs drop or you stop and move the Tbar into park then back into drive.

It only does it when the car is stone cold. It started late last winter and I didn't do anything about it as it went away when the Melbourne mornings warmed up over summer. Now that it's a heading into winter the problem is back.

What is the fix for this and is it a DIY job? I'm reasonably handy on the tools.

Cheers

__________________
2006 BF Egas XR6 Ute. Bone stock - Sorry Fellas I've had a set of King Springs in the garage for 12 months who knows when I'll get around to putting them on :
mattbl is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-05-2007, 10:15 PM   #2
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

how long has it been since it was serviced? it could possibly also be a gear lever position sensor, have you tried putting it into any other gear, and does it do the same thing?
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-05-2007, 10:21 PM   #3
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,703
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Mine used to do this, and it was low fluid - not enough fluid line pressure to keep it in gear. If it's been doing it for a year, you'd be due for a tranny service as well, just to make sure everything's OK.

It could also be the inhibitor switch - follow GKs thread on cleaning the transmissions electrical connectors to "fix" this (unless the switch is completely buggered, in which case for $120 odd it can be replaced).
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-05-2007, 10:22 PM   #4
mattbl
Regular Member
 
mattbl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 125
Default

Its probably been 40k since the tranny was serviced last I haven't touched it since I've had it, apart from the neutral thing when cold it runs fine.
I've tried shifting into different gears when it happens but it stays in neutral.

I would like to have a go at fixing it myself, should I just take the pan off and change the filter, and top it up with flluid and see how it goes?
__________________
2006 BF Egas XR6 Ute. Bone stock - Sorry Fellas I've had a set of King Springs in the garage for 12 months who knows when I'll get around to putting them on :
mattbl is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-05-2007, 10:23 PM   #5
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,703
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattbl
Its probably been 40k since the tranny was serviced last I haven't touched it since I've had it, apart from the neutral thing when cold it runs fine.
I've tried shifting into different gears when it happens but it stays in neutral.

I would like to have a go at fixing it myself, should I just take the pan off and change the filter, and top it up with flluid and see how it goes?
Yep that would do it, and at the same time, undo the electrical connectors and spray with WD40 or electric switch cleaner/protector etc.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-05-2007, 10:24 PM   #6
mattbl
Regular Member
 
mattbl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 125
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC
Mine used to do this, and it was low fluid - not enough fluid line pressure to keep it in gear. If it's been doing it for a year, you'd be due for a tranny service as well, just to make sure everything's OK.

It could also be the inhibitor switch - follow GKs thread on cleaning the transmissions electrical connectors to "fix" this (unless the switch is completely buggered, in which case for $120 odd it can be replaced).
Thanks JC I'll have a look at the fluid level in the morning.
__________________
2006 BF Egas XR6 Ute. Bone stock - Sorry Fellas I've had a set of King Springs in the garage for 12 months who knows when I'll get around to putting them on :
mattbl is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-05-2007, 10:27 PM   #7
private9
www.TUFFCARPARTS.com
 
private9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,221
Default

Definitely sounds like a fluid level issue.
private9 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-05-2007, 07:47 AM   #8
Mechan1k
Moderator
Donating Member1
 
Mechan1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kenthurst
Posts: 40,403
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Brings a wealth of knowledge to the forums and is frequently giving helpful advice. Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical information. 
Default

Same .... my auto is due for a service again ... and I just put my trans cooler back in ... and forgot to add a bit extra fluid .... yesterday morning when it was really cold prior to leaving work I had issues driving out of the driveway ... wasn't holding Drive on an incline .... I sat there for a bit for it to warm up .... and then shifted into 1 and it was fine.

But shift firmness as slackened a bit .... and it is just over 20,000km since the new box was installed .... fluid is still bright red ... which is a nice change.
Mechan1k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 16-05-2007, 06:52 PM   #9
mattbl
Regular Member
 
mattbl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 125
Default

Well things didn't quite go to plan today. I did a minor service on the car today all went fine, then started looking at the transmission. The last owner has stripped the filler plug and I can't loosen it. I gave it my best shot until I slipped and cut my finger open on the edge of the pan.

The job itself doesn't appear to be hard, if you can do an oil/filter change or change the oil in a diff I reckon the transmission should be easy enough!

I 'm going to have to take it someone to put it up on a hoist to complete, money I wasn't planning on as I'm not working at the moment.

Rant finished
__________________
2006 BF Egas XR6 Ute. Bone stock - Sorry Fellas I've had a set of King Springs in the garage for 12 months who knows when I'll get around to putting them on :

Last edited by mattbl; 16-05-2007 at 07:01 PM.
mattbl is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 16-05-2007, 07:56 PM   #10
jonbays
TL40 Wagon?
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,377
Default

That plug is a bastard size like 16mm or something i remember it well thats why a 17mm or 3/4 spanner which everyone would have will always bugger it up. Why Why Why would Ford use a 16mm on the refill plug?
jonbays is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 16-05-2007, 08:18 PM   #11
LOWAU
___________
 
LOWAU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 611
Default

My mechanic serviced my auto and the filler plug had loctight on it, so he had to use an impact socket with a 9/16 imperial socket. I know but he said its the only imperial bolt on the whole car.

The issue with the cold mornings could be due to the seals in the auto being a little worn, and requiring a rebuild to fix it. He has put an addidive in when he serviced it to try to rejuvinate the rubbers so they seal a bit better.
LOWAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 06:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL