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25-03-2008, 09:36 PM | #31 | |||
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What's this obsession people have with comparing tuned vehicles to factory standard? Compare apples with apples. [edit] - noticed Falc'man already said this, so, yeah, what he said :P |
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25-03-2008, 09:41 PM | #32 | ||
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Does this VF come with Pacer stripes?
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25-03-2008, 10:01 PM | #33 | |||
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25-03-2008, 10:26 PM | #34 | |||
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I personaly cant understand peoples obsession with factory power levels,sure it sells cars and forces the opposition to raise the bar but if you want more power and most of us do you have to mod. I own two gt's(ba/bf) and an f6(bf) all of them HAD to be modded as far as I was concerned,so they were, I have test driven a new gts, great car, but no v8 rumble coming from a 6 litre v8......???? get real. Just my opinion,but nothing from holden or ford is that great when stock. |
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26-03-2008, 12:19 PM | #35 | |||
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From the horses mouth.
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26-03-2008, 01:12 PM | #36 | ||||
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"That's not a big deal". The Chrysler 300C SRT/8 has had 317 Kw since it's launch...but nobody is talking about that....
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26-03-2008, 01:41 PM | #37 | ||
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The clubsport has been dropped as another weapon for HSV to use when needed. They've played their cards very well.
When the E series first arrived, the clubsport and 'GTS-R' were not a part of the package. Now that FPV have played their first hand, HSV have responded with the 317kw and the W427. The clubsport name plate will remain in the armory in case FPV come out with a bargain price for one of their cars. It gives HSV the option to introduce a cheaper car without ripping off those owners who have bought an R8 by lowering the price. Make sense people?
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26-03-2008, 05:03 PM | #38 | |||
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What do you get with the NZ Murph pack, a big ego and sheepskin seat covers? A pair of HSV branded razor blades to shape your own gay sideburns? The ability to blame everyone but yourself for an accident? |
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26-03-2008, 05:08 PM | #39 | |||
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26-03-2008, 05:58 PM | #40 | |||
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As for your second question. The Murph edition in VZ was Black with Orange detailing, not much else. So I would assume its an update of that. |
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26-03-2008, 06:44 PM | #41 | |||
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26-03-2008, 07:34 PM | #42 | |||
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I have also heard the 6 litre's in the ss respond alot better to cams and edits then the hsv 6 litre's,a thought for any one planning on modifications. What brake options will be available on the 427,and what are the best available brakes with hsv's current line up?? Are 6 pot fronts available?? |
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26-03-2008, 07:49 PM | #43 | |||
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27-03-2008, 12:46 AM | #44 | |||
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Front: AP Racing 6-Piston calipers with 380mm strap drive floating rotors. Rear: AP Racing 4-Piston Calipers with 350mm rotors. As for the STANDARD HSV brakes fitted to the rest of the range: Front: 365mm x 32mm ventilated and grooved discs, with 4 piston calipers. Rear brakes: 350mm x 26mm ventilated and grooved discs and 4 piston rear calipers. Plus you have ESC, ABS, EBD, EBA. In dry conditions, 36 metres is all the distance required to stop from a speed of 100km/h. Thats better braking than a Lamborghini. |
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29-03-2008, 04:00 PM | #45 | |||
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[edit] LSX At the 2006 SEMA show, GM Performance Parts introduced the LSX engine, an all-new cast-iron racing block based on the LS7 engine. It was designed with help from drag racing legend Warren Johnson, and despite being based on GM's small-block design, it offers displacements ranging from 364 cubic inches to 511 cubic inches (4.25" Bore x 4.5" Stroke) and is capable of withstanding 2500 bhp. This block incorporates two extra rows of head-bolt holes per bank for increased clamping capacity. The six bolt steel main caps are the same ones used on the LS7 engine. The engine debuted at the auto show in a customized 1969 Camaro owned by Reggie Jackson. The LSX will be available starting the second quarter of 2007, set to be available in authorized dealerships and retailers on March 31, 2007.[5]
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29-03-2008, 05:11 PM | #46 | ||
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"We know our customers want the latest and greatest technology in their cars," Scott Grant said. "The General Motors LS3 engine continues the HSV tradition of scouring the world for technological advancements to enhance the driving experience."
Since when was the LS motor so technologically advanced? Wheres the direct injection, the VVT, the 4 valves per cylinder, the double overhead camshafts, active intake etc etc the list goes on. Im not bagging the LS motors but for Scott Grant to make a statement like that is a bit silly |
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29-03-2008, 05:36 PM | #47 | |||
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The ls motors make good power, but modern technology???????? There pushrod's,the statement isnt a "bit silly" it is ridiculous. Last edited by Falcon Coupe; 29-03-2008 at 05:43 PM. Reason: Filter is there for a reason |
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29-03-2008, 05:43 PM | #48 | ||
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yeah all the multi valve mean's swat doesn't it.
have faith considering the pushrod/overhead are just two year's appart, yep modern teck they know which is best.
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29-03-2008, 05:56 PM | #49 | ||
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LSX block can handle 2500hp. Thats all the technology it needs.
The rest is up to you (Turbos, heads, cam, capacity etc)
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29-03-2008, 10:09 PM | #50 | |||
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But they have improved over the old school pushrod V8's which where making around 425hp (317kW) from their 440 (7.2L) big blocks... Today we have AMG with 507hp from 378 cubes (6.2L) and bundles of low-down torque to boot! So, now all the HSV's will have 317kW from April....it will be really interesting to see what FPV advertise their new GT's as having, will it be 315 or will they better them this time and say 320kW!!.... One thing that puzzles me is why the tuned LS2 (6.0L) in the HSV's only makes 550Nm@4400rpm while the GT's have 540Nm@4750rpm with over half a litre less capacity?....what are all those extra cubes in HSV doing I ask?... Would have been great if FPV had the BOSS 6.2's for the new GT's, then we could compare the 2 engine's (BOSS 6.2 vs LS3 6.2) cube for cube and see which one has the most tuning potential...
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29-03-2008, 10:19 PM | #51 | ||
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Probably going to get the sack over this!!! but I have seen 1 of the 2 that have been made, I've actually been under it and had a look in side (not to bad actually) yes it's a 427Cu with our custom made headers and exhaust on it.
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31-03-2008, 12:21 AM | #52 | |||
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31-03-2008, 12:26 AM | #53 | |||
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31-03-2008, 04:52 PM | #54 | |||
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AMG plays the number's game too by giving different ratings to their 5.4L supercharged V8's in their E55 and SL55 models....eg the E55 makes 469hp but in the SL55, it makes 493hp. Owners of both these vehicles have confirmed on dyno runs that these engines are infact making over 500hp in stock form... Sorry, back on topic now....
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31-03-2008, 06:54 PM | #55 | ||
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Yes thats the one the engine from the SLR, god how I would love that under my bonnet. Imagine they done what they did to that motor on a 7 litre :
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