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what does it convert it too? 9inch?
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What are you aiming for? Define high boost? One belt or two, it does not matter. I can tell you that nearly every kit on the market in the world is designed around simplicity. What works for one, might not work for another. This might be because of the initial outlay of components, or built to a cost! The BPR kits were designed to run with one belt. Limitations using a single belt is belt slip. Design it right, and belt slip is NOT A PROBLEM. I will be confident in saying the BPR kits will handle 20psi boost without belt slip, using a single belt. IF the need ever arose where a customer needed higher boost again, and belt slip was the weak link, we would step up to an 8 or 10 rib belt, before ever going down the path of a second belt. For us, running a second belt is NOT an option, as it adds more components to a system....... more things to possibly go wrong! Load on the crank???? Yes, of course there is extra load. You turn your Air-Con on...... that loads the crank. The load on the entire engine is increased with forced induction, being SC or turbo. Running two belts.......STILL LOADS YOUR ENGINE. The fact is, these Boss engines are pretty strong. They can take a fair beating, IF IT'S DONE CORRECTLY. Reliable power..... around the 350rwkw on stock internals. Some customers are running around the 400rwkw, but they accept that this is beginning to push things. Drivetrain????? Well, some are failing with stock cars. Double the standard power output with a KB, the chance of failure just multiplies. How much it multiplies.... well that depends on how you drive it! Hope this helps with peoples questions. Regards AGRO.
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As you know I nearly bought his supercharger kit until I saw your kit which I immediately fell in love with for a number of excellent engineering reasons, particularly the use of the Kenne Bell supercharger and the non- repositioning of the alternator, but most importantly your reputation for tuning and the fact you always had time for me from the very first phone call. You may not be old but you are very much from the "old school" of how to look after your customers, treat them like they are important and make them feel like you have all the time in the world for them. But I digress (which is not unusual), but my memory of Barry's setup was that the repositioned alternator (down near the power steering oil pump) which was mounted properly and around the correct way had its own drive belt driven by a crankshaft pulley mounted to the original harmonic pulley via the three threaded holes that were used for extracting that pulley. I will also give Barry full marks for the way he went about setting up the FEAD system. Cheers, Ian. |
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There is an interesting article at this address: http://www.stangnet.com/Press-Releas...Cobra-IRS.html Cheers, Ian. |
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Forget about the above URL re rear suspension. I should have fully read it first as I thought it also covered upgraded driveshafts. I obviously knew it applied to SVT Cobra Mustangs, but thought it may have been interesting. Waste of time. Sorry about that. Time to go and hide under my rock again.
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What would be the price of your intercooled kit Chris? What are it's inclusions? I like the noise of the KB Blower and the looks of the BPT kit. Decisions, decisions. Thanks.
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KenneBell Australia
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drop APC city a line, Jim should be able to help you.
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In a street application, 350rwkw is a walk in the park for our kit, and you will be running less boost than other kits to do it, with excellent repeatability. Stock internals? well, they stack up really well up to 350, we have had torture testing of the Boss for 18 months with this power and its been fine. If you wish to push the envelope it would be wise to budget for an engine. Having said that we have at least 20 out there making over 400 that are being thrashed right now without problems - i have developed an issue with my car with a stock motor at over 500rwkw, and we have had one client who is a forum member who has had an issue with a 400rwkw setup that was being used in conditions not ideal to us, however we have been in full support of that client to make it painless and inexpensive. The ZF 6 spd has a sprag type gear on 4,5,6. 123 are not too bad, but if you want to burn the tyres in 4th (and believe me it will) you may find youself in a quandry with the trans. Having said that, we have fully built ZF boxes on the shelf availible ONLY to BPR KB clients. Fit quality? Best on the market Period. As far as blower kits go, and not to take anything away from our opposition, here are some pointers for you.... * premium intercooler setup - guaranteed best PD S/C intercooler for the Boss * No need to cut fuel rails, meaning easy "return to stock" * Single belt with cush drive system - availible only on KenneBell * the only kit availible with an Australian cast manifold - not fabbed or cut and shut, locally cast and CNC machined for accuracy. * 2.6 compressor, allowing for "room to move" should the bug bite down harder..... This kit is the IDENTICAL unit as fitted to our record breaking XR8 ute, which is yet to have any kind of opposing PD kit anywhere near it. Dont worry about the compression - low spark tables, 7psi you will see MORE than 350 - you will be amazed at how efficient and safe we can make this. Price?? drop me a line at the office and I'll sort out a deal for you.
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Thanks for taking the time out to answer my questions Chris.............appreciate it. The Bug is there and I'm just saving up for renovations to the DOG HOUSE.............it will need to be a tad bigger than it is now because it will need to fit both myself and the car in it.......... ![]() I'll give you a hoy sometime to dicuss pricing to see if it is viable............... |
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g,day chris,have you stuck one of these blowers on a 3v before and if so did it make enough power for what its worth,i did read that their wasnt enough of a market for you to produce them.im looking for other paths to go down to make more power as the engine rebuild from what we discussed would not be that good.Is the mouting bracket for the blower on xr8s the same as the 3v?(come to think of it i can make that if you got a drawing)if so i can make all the plumbing easy out of alu or s/s (what evers better)the one im not sure about is the sump pressure,ive heard that oil ****es out of the rocker covers somewhere,is this a hard problem to fix?Do these have their own oil supply or do you have to hook oil lines up?are the 3v bottom ends the same as the xr's?how much can you sell the mouting bracket and the kb blower and a longer belt for?sorry just realized something,does this s/c sit on top like a whipple or off to the side like a vortech?if it sits on top will it fit(apart from the bonnet)any info would be very helpful,thanks
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Youre only realistic option is the 2005 F-150 3v Whipple kit. About 5K USD Daniel |
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I'm available anytime for WA members to have a look at a KB setup. If your concerned about quality or fitting. Just PM me.
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Some Vids of these Kits in action on our BA/BF's would be awesome, showed my girlfriend the Vids of the Kenne Bell GT500... and she likes... now ive just got to save for the Kit :P
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