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Old 10-06-2008, 08:44 AM   #1
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Hi All.
Im looking into getting an N95 mobile phone from oversea's they have asked for payment via Western Union Money Order, can this be trusted? I don't want to send the cash then get taken for a ride.
Has anyone had any dealings with them?

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Old 10-06-2008, 08:58 AM   #2
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western union - yes used them a couple of times very reliable.

sellers asking for money through them not so much, i wouldn't do it as you have no means to argue payment afterwards like with paypal or even credit card.
i smell a rip-off.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:53 AM   #3
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Buying one from Overseas I'd be more worried about the N95 being a fake.

How much is it and does it have GPS?....No GPS not genuine

Be VERY careful, the Chinese are making some brilliant copies!

A couple of places to compare...

http://www.n95users.com/forum/genera...ew-buyers.html

http://www.n95users.com/forum/genera...fake-help.html
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:16 AM   #4
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They said it has GPS. they are in the UK. i think i might just say no i don't want them.
they are $400 each i have to buy 2
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That seems awfull cheap! Was that $400 AUD?

Check out http://www.n95users.com/forum

Most of the people on there are in the UK or Europe and you can check out dodgy phones there.
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yeah around $400 AUD this was after the converion from USD.

They are $350 USD
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:50 PM   #7
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Just because they SAY they are in the UK doesn't mean they are.

Although a great service for us honest folk, Western Union is almost exclusively used by scammers because of it's lack of accountability.

I would be extremely wary of anyone offering goods and wanting payment in this manner.

More info on scammers is available here http://thescambaiter.com/ - and there are some great stories!!
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They said it has GPS. they are in the UK. i think i might just say no i don't want them.
they are $400 each i have to buy 2
Care to share the link for them with us Josh?
I'd like to have a look at the phones.
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Don't buy them alot of scammers use the Western Union money transfers system because its hard to trace the people who own the account your sending money to.. I suggest using only PayPal, you're covered up to $2o,ooo insurance.
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I'll second and third what ppl have said re Western Money.

DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!! It's a scam in the making.

In fact, most websites selling things give specific warnings AGAINST paying with this method.

Once the money is sent, you have hardly any recourse.

Paypal or no sale. Also, if you are communicating with this person on an email acount that allows you to 'show full headers', there are free resources online that will trace an email to the city of origin. I have caught out many a UK person sending an email from Africa...
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:54 PM   #11
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SCAM!!
from ebay's own website
Instant cash wire transfer- Services such as Western Union and MoneyGram are a good way to transfer cash between friends or family but are not suitable for eBay purchases. Fraudsters may try to get you to pay using Western Union or MoneyGram. Sometimes they’ll even email you 'proof' that eBay says it’s ok. eBay does not allow sellers to ask for payment by Western Union or MoneyGram. These methods are hard to trace and there is no recourse or protection if the item is not delivered.
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Nah, dont do it.

Especially if their saying you have to buy 2. Shouldn't need to buy more than what you want.

Anyway, N95's are going at good prices via Ebay. i got a N95 8gb for $700 6 months ago.
Awesome phone too.
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take 8 shiny new $100 notes and place carefully into a envelope, address to Nigeria via London . forget you ever had $800 or spend another $2000 trying to find it.

you will probably have the same result as if you make the purchase.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:13 AM   #14
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Never use Western Union transfer! If theyre seriously selling those kind of goods, they wouldnt have a problem using Paypal.
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I have asked if they accept Paypal,

GasOlane ill have a look and get the link for you.
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Personally I'd NEVER pay for something using Western Union. A mere mention of that name and I'd be smelling a rat immediately. All 419 scammers love WU.
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I've sent money using western union before but only to a mate that was stuck overseas and needed to get home. Theres no way in hell i'd use it to pay for something the way i use paypal. If your not related or good mates with the receiver its not a good idea.
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I asked if they accept Paypal and haven't heard back from them
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Old 13-06-2008, 09:46 AM   #19
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well i heard back from them finally. they said they are a legit company but dont accept Paypal, here is there web address for those who are interested. http://www.mobilephoneworld.co.uk/ I have some friends that live in the Uk so i mite see if they can go and buy it for me and check the phone out first, if it is all good im going to get 1, if anyone else wants one at the same time let me know and ill see what i can do for you as well.
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Old 13-06-2008, 11:11 AM   #20
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Neo there has been plenty of N95 here on ebay go for 400 and under if your prepared to bid on a few auctions. And from reputable sellers (As with the advice here, avoid dodgy sounding ideas like western union and people with low or neg feedback).

Lowest I have seen recently was a aussie n95 go for 335 on a early monday morning. Same phone same seller (big auction place) goes for as much as 600 on say a thursday evening.

Just another option for you mate.
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Yeah i have ben watching them on ebay as well, IM after the 8gb one the least amount i have seen one of the go for is $565 + postage. If the guys i works with in the UK say its all good then ill get one from there. otherwise il have to spend the extra and get it from ebay.
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Old 14-06-2008, 12:16 PM   #22
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Josh, according to that URL they only sell mobile phone accessories.

If your buying an N95 and it doesn't have GPS it's a fake.

Check them out here....

http://www.intomobile.com/2008/02/02...erfection.html

http://justamp.blogspot.com/2008/02/...8gb-clone.html
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