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27-12-2008, 04:36 PM | #1 | ||
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Recently I went down to Bris to buy some new work and toy cars thinking I would take advantage of the cheap prices.
There were squillions of BA & BA2 XT sedans with reasonably low Ks (50-100) for good prices (about $10k). I grabbed an excellent ex-fleet XT for 10.8k. I was also looking for a ute. For the same $10k all I could find was AU and AU2 XLs with 150-200 in very average condition. Anything BA was 15+ and XR6/T/8 was 20-30 and there were bugger all of them. |
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27-12-2008, 04:54 PM | #2 | ||
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Yep the dealers really screw you both ways. They want to charge a foryune for the second hand cars ,but only give you a pitance for a trade in.
They offered me $22500 for my 05 BA MKII ute with only 42,000k's on it and that was on a 80+k car. I'm still in the ute needless to say |
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27-12-2008, 08:05 PM | #3 | ||
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Utes always keep a higher resale value than sedans. Smaller numbers of ex fleet vehicles as well as lower overall sales numbers means there isn't the same over-supply issue the sedans have.
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27-12-2008, 08:23 PM | #4 | ||
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I think that they are also a bit more sought after.
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27-12-2008, 10:28 PM | #5 | ||
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I've noticed the Falcon utes seem to hold more value for longer than what the sedans do. Having said that, I can't seem to even give mine away.
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27-12-2008, 10:31 PM | #6 | ||
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Yeh i thought that to, until i bought the Super Pursuit.. If i had spent the same money and bought a GT with leather, i would think the GT would be worth more then the Super Pursuit is now, but then again maybe im dreaming...
I think you will find that the base falcon utes XL / XLS (RS) and XR6 do hold a better resale pecentage over their sedan counter parts... Its the Higher end ones that seem to die!
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28-12-2008, 03:28 PM | #7 | ||
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I can vouch for that:
2004 BA XR6 Turbo ute purchased $39900 on the road with hard lid... ...sold 2006 with 35,000kms for $30000. Cheapest car I have ever owned. |
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28-12-2008, 04:01 PM | #8 | ||
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Found this when purchased my BA ute in Brisbane. For similar money in a sedan was looking at almost half the k's and full options. I was also looking for cab-chasis, for some reason in most cases I found these more expensive then utes with a tub which didn't make a lot of sense to me.
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28-12-2008, 08:38 PM | #9 | |||
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28-12-2008, 08:40 PM | #10 | ||
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When I purchased a car a while ago I was speaking to the guy and he said that cars that 'have a purpose' seem to hold there value ALOT better.
Eg. Ute's they have a purpose and people need not want them and there is only so many utes. But if you just want a car for you and the missus and kids etc there are millions and millions of 4 door cars made by every manufactorer but how many people make utes? Bascially supply and demand. Small supply of utes and wagons + continuing demand = higher resale Oversupply of sedans + normal demand = lower resale Or am I babbling?? lol |
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28-12-2008, 09:49 PM | #11 | ||
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a dealer was saying to me that having a manual ute was a bonus on resale as well for whatever reason
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28-12-2008, 09:56 PM | #12 | |||||
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28-12-2008, 10:07 PM | #13 | ||
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my 04 manual xr8 ute halved in value in 2 yrs when i traded it on a territory turbo, i would have been better leasing one. the ute had dealer fit herrod accessories, and 45000ks, i got 25k as a trade.
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28-12-2008, 10:08 PM | #14 | ||
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Yeah I had a BA XR8 ute and only lost $9000 over three years in depreciation. I thought that was pretty good. Although I took almost double the hit when offloading my AU XR8 ute.
I've been looking for a good budget AU XLS for a white now and can't seem to find much. They seem to hold there price. |
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30-12-2008, 04:48 PM | #16 | ||
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There's a white BA Ute on eBay for $7.9k and it has a canopy.
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30-12-2008, 07:26 PM | #17 | ||
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On sedans the depreciation in the first couple of years seems roughly on average around 15k a year while the utes are closer to 10k a year. It is diabolical no matter which way you look at it. I can't see me changing from my BF F6 any time soon. For the depreciation on an FG in the first couple of years I could probably put two engines, two gearboxes and two diffs in the BF and still be in front...
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