Quickest Ecotec?

[Windsor220]

Ok most people will probably think this is a pointless thread but I thought I'd ask.

The other day one of the apprentices told me about one of his friends that had the quickest NA ecotec engined Commodore that ran in the 11s. He was very sure of himself too and said NOS was definitely not used. As you'd expect I laughed for around 30 minutes.

Anyway does anyone know what the ecotec NA record is for a Commodore? 13.3 for a 4.0l Falcon so I thougt it would be close to that.

[Falcon Coupe]

It's a bit late for April fools.

Although it may have done an 11 vertically if dropped out of an aeroplane.

[xbgs351]

I'm guessing 9's in a Reynard.

[Mr Hardware]

Yeah i'd reckon high 13's would be the go. A clean, well tuned stock VS will do it pretty much square on 16, so there's a small indicator.

[waggaclint]

I reckon it would be quicker than a 4.0I6 n/a you can buy a lot more stuff for the 3.8v6s these days compared to the 4.0I6..

[Road_Warrior]

"Tell him he's dreamin"

[747jet]

get your hand off it 11's right

[brenx]

rofl!

[The Monty]

It would be a low 14 to a high 13 MAX.

[Bluehoon]

There was a turbo VN with a built motor that pulled 11s, fastest to date.
Out of the box it's either VS Series II or VY.
VS has the weight advantage but VTII when the refresh of the motor was done got better headers, cats, throttle bodies and manifolds...

Still a gutless chauff cutter that won't muster 13s with bolt ons...

[DIFFWA]

ROTFLMAO another apprentice that has a mate whos friends cousins uncle has an old high school pal who has a son that has a 11s n/a ecotec lmao

[CRAIGAU3220]

I'm sure i seen this 11 sec ecotec,

Yep i remember now it was on fantasy island, and the guy driving was very short and i must say a little strange, kept crapping on about a plane.

[Falc'man]

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[vztrt]

I've read in the states that these cars have got good times with the use of turbo charging, but so has the I6.

N/A Ecotec doing 11's?? I would seriously need to see proof of this as its BS.

[The Monty]

Originally Posted by The Monty

It would be a low 14 to a high 13 MAX.

Im talking N/A as well, didnt think of boosted ones, lol.
If I remember, on the commodore forums, they have threads about trying to crack into the 14's, like we try and crack the 13's.
Generally an exhaust plus intake VN/VP will make 95rwkw, same with a VY is around 120kw.
Our E series with exhaust and intake make 130, AU's are the same, B'series will make 150.

[GT 4eva]

yeah and my VW trasporter TDi work van does 12's with ladders on the racks!!!!!!!!

[Mr Hardware]

I think the Monty is spot on the money. My brother has a VT (auto, six, na, wagon)that he's starting to mod (done CAI and exhaust, just about to do extractors and roller rockers) and he reckons with all of that he'd be seeing ~105-110rwkw and a square 16, which i reckon is about right.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

It's a bit late for April fools.

Although it may have done an 11 vertically if dropped out of an aeroplane.

They do go pretty slow when they are dropped over the side of a boat to the sea floor to drop anchor though

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Bluehoon

Still a useless pile of sh1te that won't muster 13s with bolt ons...

Fixed that for you. Also, anyone know of the "performance" potential of the Alloytec? Probably still not a patch on the I6 but I'm curious.

[Walkinshaw]

I think they can cut low 13's N/A when done right (high stall TH700 etc) however 11's NA would require it to be dropped in a FHolden chassis or similar (or mabey an HB torry would do it).

[Mr Hardware]

Performance potential for the alloytec would be alright. It'd probably be doing ~125rwkw in stock form. In a VZ its a pathetic heap of crap with light years of throttle lag, but in a VE it's pretty responsive. Not too bad power wise, but still a torqueless wonder however.

[The Monty]

The VE's 0-100 is in the low 9 second mark. And thats before the power cut for fuel economy that came into effect a few months ago.

[gags_17]

hey guys
after readin all this about how slow the commodores are im beginin to think my ba mont is a POS MY best mate has a vy exec with just cai and so does mine, but of the lights he beats me till bout 90 and then i catch him, does this sound bout right?
cheers

[The Monty]

He has the advantage of diff gears and weight. My mate stock VT ex cop car ould flog my monty which used to run 14.9's, to 80, then Id just cruise past.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by 51RTE

They do go pretty slow when they are dropped over the side of a boat to the sea floor to drop anchor though

I know they do have the 4.2 stroker kits available so cubes would be better than Ford. Still I reckon a 13 would be about it.

[Falcon Coupe]

There are a couple here in the 11's, however they are the supercharged model with 21psi boost kits.

[XR6_190]

What drugs is this apprentice of yours on? an N/A Ecotec commodore, faster than most heavily modded V8s and Turbo I6s, yeah right, what next, a Daihatsu steamrolling an F1 car?

[Pinch]

NA Ecotec maybe could do 11's if it was bolted into a go cart, what do you think?

[388cube_edxr8]

Originally Posted by Pinch

NA Ecotec maybe could do 11's if it was bolted into a go cart, what do you think?

Mate I was just thinking that, but it would have to be a long kart with a front mounted engine and RWD or it would just flip off the launch, and then it probably be too heavy.

I think an ecotec in a VY-VZ could do 11s over the 1/4, but it would be like an axe with a new handle and new head. There would be no Holden (Buick)parts left in it at all, and it would cost a serious amount of dosh.

I suspect the apprentice may have been talking about 11s over the 1/8 or 60 foot

[Eu-GenixX]

or the apprentice just didn't see the supercharger/turbo...?