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Old 25-06-2009, 09:21 PM   #1
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Default Morons Speeding And Tailgating In A 40 Zone

Really!!

i still see it happening, aggresive (mostly tradies) verbally abusing law abiding citizens trying, to do the safe thing by sticking to the 40kph limit during school times protecting our children, MY CHILRDEN.

The other day i saw this aggressive a/hole harrassing an older couple on Stephensons road Mt Waverley cause they where doing the RIGHT thing.

Today my wife copped the abuse outside MY kids school again from a tradie.
Im a tradie myself , i do have kids , i recently lost someone close to me in a car accident...

Would you put up with someone doing this behind you in a 40km zone??

Or are you the one always in a hurry to get home 5 seconds earlier!?

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It makes me more determined to sit on 40 or below- LOL
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Old 25-06-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
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i put up with it. id rather put up with some yelling angry tradie than put the lives of some kids at risk.
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Old 25-06-2009, 09:31 PM   #4
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It's not just in 40k zones.
I use the Monash & Eastlink most days and it happens in the roadworks 80k zones as well as the 100k zones, whilst trying to obey the limits you watch them darting from lane to lane just to get that few extra carspaces in front.
I generally use the centre lane and sit on the limit and if they start to tailgate i just ease off a little. 9 out of 10 times you are only a few cars behind them at the next bottleneck.
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i find that most of the speeding cars in 40 zones are women with their kids in the car. its like once they have picked up their kids they dont care about anyone elses.
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Old 25-06-2009, 09:44 PM   #6
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Do what I so, stick right on the speed limit, get's them angier.
I spend a couple of hours on the road every day and notice that people are getting angrier and driving even more like tools..... I suppose the cops are off at sensitivity training or something.
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40 zones are prone to speeding.. as its been said, go slower, i do!
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i put up with it. id rather put up with some yelling angry tradie than put the lives of some kids at risk.
But the issue is that had the tradies not had somebody in front of them, they'd be tearing through the 40 zone, placing the kids at risk.

Though I find the placement of some PERMANENT 40 zones to be questionable (Taylors Lane near Wellington Road, and also Watsons Road outside Brentwood), enforcing the speed limit in 40 zones should be severe.

The speed is kept low for a reason, and it should not take the death of a child to realise that.
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Old 25-06-2009, 10:55 PM   #9
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I usually find lots and lots of fleet and business cars giving people a hard time. I guess its not your car, who cares right?... well, you'll care if I need to hit the brakes.
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although i do agree, and most of the time when someone does it i'll slam on the brakes and get out of the car and they usually pack themselves - i do have to say that 40km limits are fantastic in school zones, but it seems they are spreading these out more and more to non school zones, in my area (back of endeavour hills/lysterfield south) there are 40km limits everywhere and they arn't even school areas, they are fixed 40km signs which i think is rediculous!
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apart from the obvious, my kids school zone is heavily enforced by cops and it's a no brainer really.

i still reckon when aproaching a school zone the speed limit should 60, 50 and then 40. then 40, 50 and 60 when leaving.

that would help i reckon.
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Unfortunatly...some people fail to appreciate that others use the road system as well.

Slow down to the speed limit....if you get abused...note the rego number...report to police, let them know what is happening and the police may actualy get around to policing the area.

But they will not know unless you tell them this is occuring.

The main problem I have is idiots in old bangers, or 4 cylinders who treat the front row of the traffic lights like the front row grid at Bathurst....probably because my Blood Orange BA GT is in mint condition and sounds wicked.

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Used to annoy me when my XR8 was marginal about engaging cruise control at 40kph. I find it hard to drive 70's and 80 zones and notch it down to 40 without having 1 eye permanently glued to the speedo, not something recommended in a 40 zone - hence the cruise control.

Car I have now doesn't care what speed I engage it at. If morons decide to tailgate me, I move the rear view mirror away. Problem solved. :P
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U If morons decide to tailgate me, I move the rear view mirror away. Problem solved. :P
agreed. although i don't move the mirror, i just mind my own business. as far as i'm concerned, when driving you should be alert and aware of your surroundings and others but don't let others influence you. that includes getting annoyed/flustered because someone else isn't doing the right thing. thats their choice. its not your job to correct them.
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Recently I've been driving my wife's Corolla to work to put some mileage on it. Tell you what, I get tailgated and intimidated a lot more in that car than the XR6. Yesterday morning I'm on the Eastern Freeway with my speed varying between 85 to 100km/h going with the flow of other traffic and keeping to the left or middle lanes.

I had no less than 3 different idiots tailgating me. One in particular, a Mercedes Vito van was so goddamn close I reckon if I was able to switch on the reverse sensors I would have heard one continuous beep!!

When he finally moved over and came past me (he didn't fly by) I made sure I gave him "the stare" as I'm sure the last thing he expected behind the wheel was a big ugly caucasian with cropped hair and a goatee!! No idea whether it had any effect as it was still dark.

I'm normally pretty calm on the road but this guy really got to me to the point where I briefly contemplated "having a word" if we ended up stopped together at the end of the freeway. Once he was out of sight I settled down and normal transmission resumed.

Agree with the original post, see lots of aggressive tailgating and have also noticed tradies seem to be the most prevalent.
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Recently I've been driving my wife's Corolla to work to put some mileage on it. Tell you what, I get tailgated and intimidated a lot more in that car than the XR6. Yesterday morning I'm on the Eastern Freeway with my speed varying between 85 to 100km/h going with the flow of other traffic and keeping to the left or middle lanes.

I had no less than 3 different idiots tailgating me. One in particular, a Mercedes Vito van was so goddamn close I reckon if I was able to switch on the reverse sensors I would have heard one continuous beep!!

When he finally moved over and came past me (he didn't fly by) I made sure I gave him "the stare" as I'm sure the last thing he expected behind the wheel was a big ugly caucasian with cropped hair and a goatee!! No idea whether it had any effect as it was still dark.

I'm normally pretty calm on the road but this guy really got to me to the point where I briefly contemplated "having a word" if we ended up stopped together at the end of the freeway. Once he was out of sight I settled down and normal transmission resumed.

Agree with the original post, see lots of aggressive tailgating and have also noticed tradies seem to be the most prevalent.

I have noticed the same thing, when I am in the ute I do not get it very much (or perhaps I can't see them because the rear vision is woeful) but when I am in the Mini I get them all the time. I agree tradies in hilux utes are the worst, normally with trailers. I have noticed the ones without trailers often can't go around a corner without getting it sideways. Personally I do not see the achievement,anyone can get an empty hilux 4x2 sideways.
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It's not just tradies, it mums as well who should know better.

I was on my motorbike the other day on my way home from work. I slowed down to 40 and I had the soccer mum in her Territory tail gating me and on the horn. She few past me when we went from single to double lanes and I copped a gob full. She had 3 kids in the car as well. It the tables were turned and I went wizzing past her, I would have been a motorcycle idiot.

Still soccer mum would be the first to jump up and down if a child was hit near the school, I am sure. They would also the first to complain about lack of Police.

This is just typical of the ingnorant "me, me" "Bugger you, Jack" behaviour of people today. Lost in thier own little world. They fail to even stop and think about someone else for a second, until it effects them.
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I think you can't just say its all tradies. The news showed a school bus doing 58 in 40 zone. I do try and use my cruise control as well as stated above in the zones. I hate that they also do it to my wife who has just got her P's. They scare her out of wanting to drive!

It happens in all speed zones. I find it funny though that when its a higher speed zone and tailgaters hang on you, overtake in crazy spots then come to a few bends where they do way below! I then have to slow down :

When I had my patrol (lifted and big tyres) no one came anywhere near me. Interesting people find that in other vehicles too!


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Its the parents droppin the kids off at the school that are the speeders.

On the way to work they have a left hand turn lane to drive into the school and drop the kids off.

I will be doing 40 in the 40 school zone and the parents who are in the left lane dropping their kids off speed past me.

Dont they think the speed limit applys to them - its their little weeds that I have to slow down for so they should as well arrrrrrrrrrrrrg!
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People have no respect for speed limits in this country, because speed limits in this country are a joke. If people felt that all speed limits were overall relevant to the conditions, then they would probably ahdere to them more when they come across low speed limits (such as school zones).

And also I'd rather someone 'speed' doing 50, with acute reaction times and their attention glued to the road, then some smug holier-than-thou 'driver' sitting on 40 feeling pleased with themselves, staring at their speedo.

All this, 'I slow down when I see someone in a rush so I can hold them up' is a real sign of the selfishness running through this country, the whole 'If im not allowed to speed, well then I wont let anyone else' attitude reminds me when in 1998 my wife and I were rushing our daughter to hospital as she couldnt breath after a bee sting. Drivers could see I was in a hurry and I needed to pass, but they all took some form of tall poppy glee in denying me the courtesy of letting me rush ahead.
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There's a part of Shore St. West in Cleveland from the train station to Masthead Dr. which is 40km because of a couple pedestrian crossings and bus stops and no one does the speed limit along there. I stay at 40 and my father goes nuts over them, but I just stick to the speed limit and stay calm.
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Kids were safe when the limit was 60, pretty sure everyone who posts here had 60kph zones around their school, you all seem alive enough to post.

Speeding and tailgating happens on all roads, I don't condone it, but it's not restricted to school zones. I fear of the 'soccer mums' in the AWD's than the speeders.
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i think the 40 zone's should be reviewed.
in kindy/primary school fine.
but at high school/tafe no, if they can drive to school them selfs shurly they know how to cross a road.
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I've got a big problem with the guards at the "children crossing" right near my home (farrington rd perth)...

They stop me from getting to work on time to let not only the TEENAGERS cross, which is retarded but ok that's why they are there... But then they stop traffic to let goddamn 20/30/40/50 YEAR OLDS cross the road! I can't always stop myself from abusing the out of them, and the "adult" going past.. god save me from old heros with flags..
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I have 4 kids which i have 2 drop to school every day and everyday its the same thing. I slow down to 40 and the person behind wants to join me in the back seat, they just do not seem to understand, SLOW DOWN kids lives are at risk.......
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I've got a big problem with the guards at the "children crossing" right near my home (farrington rd perth)...

They stop me from getting to work on time to let not only the TEENAGERS cross, which is retarded but ok that's why they are there... But then they stop traffic to let goddamn 20/30/40/50 YEAR OLDS cross the road! I can't always stop myself from abusing the out of them, and the "adult" going past.. god save me from old heros with flags..

Maybe you could leave for work a few minutes earlier and that would mean you could make it to work on time.
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Kids were safe when the limit was 60, pretty sure everyone who posts here had 60kph zones around their school, you all seem alive enough to post.

Speeding and tailgating happens on all roads, I don't condone it, but it's not restricted to school zones. I fear of the 'soccer mums' in the AWD's than the speeders.
+1 on this view.
What were the figures like before 50, then 40 zones were introduced?
Our buddy Harold seems to brainwashed many.

I find myself, as I have matured in road use, travelling at ever varying speeds through back streets.
I started out on my P's when the back streets were 60 and I was always doing 60 cause I was allowed to, then 50 zones came about and I did 60 most of the time, cause that's what it used to be.
But now I find myself travelling at 40, and sometimes slower, quite bit in the streets lined with parked cars and children that seem to have no idea of consequence thanks to the fantastic guidance of their 'parents'. That and I really dont see the need to get to my parents place for a family dinner 2 minutes quicker.

But I do hate permanent 40 zones around schools, especially ones that are totally fenced in so they ar enot even accesible as a park after hours or on weekends.
Permanent 40 zones in shopping strips is ok by me, come to Noble park and you'll see why...haha. But then again, the ignorance of drivers and pedestrians has probably been brought around by the fact the speed is so slow no-one needs to look any more.
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It's the soccer mum generation in their pretend 4WDs that are half the problem...

They belt around with no regard for anyone else...But I think it's moreso the fact that they simply have no idea.

I disagree also with some peoples comments saying to slow down if someone is tailgating you...Won't that just escalate the situation?
Either keep doing the speed limit or if things get worse, take 5 secs to pull off the road and let them pass.
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I've gotta drop kids off mate, not much I can do. They do it in the arvo as well, all over perth (albeit not as bad as my locals)

Just makes me mad, there is no reason for them to stop traffic to let adults cross, apart from making them feel useful at everyone else's expense.
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I've gotta drop kids off mate, not much I can do. They do it in the arvo as well, all over perth (albeit not as bad as my locals)

Just makes me mad, there is no reason for them to stop traffic to let adults cross, apart from making them feel useful at everyone else's expense.

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