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Old 17-07-2009, 06:00 PM   #1
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Exclamation Simple Mods to get up to 90MPG from a std car

http://www.aerocivic.com/

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Old 17-07-2009, 06:08 PM   #2
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Well that is clever thinking. If his results can be repeated and proven conclusively then maybe this will be a better way to save fuel.

No more boxes on wheels....
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Old 17-07-2009, 06:12 PM   #3
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He seems to know his stuff and appears to have researched it well - more power to him I say.
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Old 17-07-2009, 06:23 PM   #4
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Its a little rough around the edges sure, but good on him for thinking outside of the box (literally) and making it work!

I wonder what sort of mileage that shape would get if it was a newer petrol driven/hybrid car underneath?
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Old 17-07-2009, 06:32 PM   #5
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It reminds me of this classic design.

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Old 17-07-2009, 07:17 PM   #6
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check out the video he links to and tell me that aint minimal damage to the deer :evil3:
That maybach looks cool, would make a good hot rod. probably a bit pricy for a starting point but.
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Old 17-07-2009, 08:09 PM   #7
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Ha ha. There is something strangely funny about watching that video. I cant stop laughing. It reminds me of a kangaroo I hit once. It didnt fly that high though
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Old 17-07-2009, 10:29 PM   #8
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Thats great!! Good on him!!

No one seems to notice the bad economy of flat backed cars at highway speeds. Take a corolla and compare it to a prius/elantra for example.
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Old 18-07-2009, 02:30 AM   #9
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Its a little rough around the edges sure, but good on him for thinking outside of the box (literally) and making it work!

I wonder what sort of mileage that shape would get if it was a newer petrol driven/hybrid car underneath?
it would also be interesting to see how much better it would be if a beater cleaned up the rough body work, a nice effort all the same, an au might ba an interesting shape for one of these projects.....
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Old 18-07-2009, 01:14 PM   #10
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I think that deer would have been killed - at the very least, it's hooves would have been sliced off under that car, so it's as good as dead anyway. This is one of the reasons why things such as exposed intercoolers and other sharp hard surfaces down low aren't allowed, to give pedestrians and the like a chance. Not really funny.

This one is better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9HLS...eature=related
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Old 18-07-2009, 09:44 PM   #11
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Is it worth looking like a douche just to save a few bucks in petrol, not to mention people thinking you must be a total tightar5e.
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Old 18-07-2009, 09:49 PM   #12
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Is it worth looking like a douche just to save a few bucks in petrol, not to mention people thinking you must be a total tightar5e.
Your right - wouldnt want to look like a prius driver....lol
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Old 19-07-2009, 11:35 AM   #13
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Is it worth looking like a douche just to save a few bucks in petrol, not to mention people thinking you must be a total tightar5e.
I wonder if he is a trekkie? (star trek idiot, sort of like comic book guy).
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more than likely.
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Old 19-07-2009, 03:07 PM   #15
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I am interested in this coast down cd calculation! I will try that. I dont think cd's play as important a role as they should. The first AU1 falcon had the lowest ever in OZ, didnt do well cos of its shape, however went great on the HWY. Sadly its never been replicated.

What is the cd of an FG?
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Old 19-07-2009, 04:50 PM   #16
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AU1 falcons drag cd was .295, still better than 95% of cars. http://rc.opelgt.org/indexcw.php
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Old 19-07-2009, 05:35 PM   #17
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I would love to own a Fisker Karma. One of my fav cars right now. 0-100 in 5.8, 1300Nm of torque or something ridiculous like that. 100mpg! And the best part, it looks to stack up against a Quattroporte, Panamera, XJ-R...it looks nothing like a Prius.
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Old 19-07-2009, 05:39 PM   #18
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AU1 falcons drag cd was .295, still better than 95% of cars. http://rc.opelgt.org/indexcw.php
That is because it was so ugly even the air wanted to get away from it
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That is because it was so ugly even the air wanted to get away from it
Oh snap!!!!!

That was the funniest thing I've ever read here, even more so than ralliarts "padels".
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Old 20-07-2009, 01:38 PM   #21
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That is because it was so ugly even the air wanted to get away from it
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Old 20-07-2009, 01:53 PM   #22
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One of my favs so far has been reading this..

"The rounded nose starts the air moving smoothly up over the front of the hood and over the top of the car. It functions as a two mode bumper; acting as a scoop when I run into deer to redirect the collision energies upwards so the deer are propelled up and over the top of my car. But if I hit something heavier, it also provides about one foot of additional crush space as it crushes back to the car's original bumpers."

Does he PLAN on hitting deers?
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Old 20-07-2009, 02:16 PM   #23
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hmm....that is some of the roughest body work i have ever seen. surely better craftsmanship would see better economy again.

as for his results, i would be interested to see if these could be proven....he hasnt exactly used any new technology, and his design is copied off some very old designs. If the design is so amazing, why arent car companies heading down this path?
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hmm....that is some of the roughest body work i have ever seen. surely better craftsmanship would see better economy again.

as for his results, i would be interested to see if these could be proven....he hasnt exactly used any new technology, and his design is copied off some very old designs. If the design is so amazing, why arent car companies heading down this path?
For the same reason that the AU didn't sell; it doesn't appeal aesthetically.

Big crumple zones though, you could make the front cone out of that NURF stuff so if you hit a pedestrian, they'd probably be fine. Hey, this star trekkie idiot might be on to something. "I need 10,000 hot pockets stat".
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The next most visible mods are the wheel well covers. These streamline the sides of the car and as a fringe benefit, keep the sides of the car clean by eliminating the water spray that you see boiling out from the sides of most cars when driving on a wet road.
As if you'd even bother cleaning this car. The panel work has got to be the ugliest I've seen since the cardboard bodykit on the volvo in the KFC ad. :hihi:

Nah, good on him for having a crack and showing what some simple, yet ugly, additions can do to improve a cars aerodynamics.

Of course the mods would never stand a chance to get past any regulatory authority, that rear might be a good crumple zone for him, but its a nice spear for the person that hits him.
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Old 20-07-2009, 04:45 PM   #26
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You do realise that it was the curved back (cockroach shell) of the AU that made it so slippery not the front and as soon as you fitted any sort of wing on the rear to make it look a bit less "AUish" you buggered it all up.

It is a shame really, I had a Ghia for several years and it got quite good fuel economy and went reasionably well (except for when it scared the hell out of me with the 180km/h speed limiter or the traction control that left you in the crawling in the middle of an intersection if there was a bit of gravel and a wheel spun slightly).

It was technically a great design but unfortunately not athsteticly so...
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