6versus8

JPFS1 · 16-10-2009, 01:25 PM

Sorry if this has been posted before...

Interesting site.

6versus8

theboxmike · 16-10-2009, 02:26 PM

Interesting.....still would rather our Inline 6 over the ecoboost

5.4 GT · 16-10-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JPFS1

Sorry if this has been posted before...

Interesting site.

6versus8

That was interesting thanks for the link.

The 1940kg (probably closer to 2100 with driver and fuel) Lincoln MKS was extremely lucky that they didn't really have any corners in that course (they were more like slight bends in a straight road)... Even that "hairpin" was one of the widest/longest hairpins I've ever seen.

The results would have been a lot different on a typical windy Australian road.

irlewy86 · 16-10-2009, 02:49 PM

V6 engines are the spawn of Satan's accountants.

Yellow_Festiva · 16-10-2009, 04:25 PM

Not a fair comparison in my opinion. They kept referring to the Ecoboost engine as a 'V6'.. I could probably count on one hand the amount of times they mentioned it was a TWIN TURBO engine. The other V8's are NA.. yes?

Bit like putting an 09 Falcon against an 09 WRX and saying that the 6 was beaten buy a '4 cylinder'...

All in all, I was impressed with the results. I think, to finish off they should have mentioned as a side by side comparison things like HP, torque, weight, fuel consumption, and RRP of each model.

Gobes32 · 16-10-2009, 08:10 PM

At the end of the day, a V8 still sounds like a V8 and that is why we all buy them, correct?

Joe5619 · 16-10-2009, 08:24 PM

Very interesting vidoes.. Whilst this test was V6T vs V8 NA, I think here in Australia & falcon it is a very good guide to I4T vs V6 NA (even vs I6 NA).. Should be very interseting to see what the I4T does do in the falcon.

mik · 17-10-2009, 02:22 PM

i was wondering the percentage of possible power loss at that elevation and found this info via Mr Google..... Air Density decreases at a rate of 2.9% - 3.0% for each 1000 ft. of elevation above Sea Level.
it would have been interesting to dyno these limo`s at elevation

, not a bad effort to get the lincon up there in that bunch of cars turbo or not.

htrdmstng · 17-10-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

At the end of the day, a V8 still sounds like a V8 and that is why we all buy them, correct?

I agree 100%

burnz · 17-10-2009, 03:33 PM

2k's altitude is for areoplane's not cars, NA engine's will have an asthma attack at that hight.

Cabbage · 17-10-2009, 05:21 PM

impressive result but it looks ordinary. FG spanks it in that regard.

Ghiadude · 17-10-2009, 06:02 PM

mis-read post

falzoony · 17-10-2009, 09:26 PM

I'd assume a TT V6 would beat most NA V8's. Not really sure what the test proves.
However it does build hype for Ford which is a good thing and hopefully it is reflected in the sales. Having 'eco' in the same seems to sell anything these days.

Bossxr8 · 17-10-2009, 11:33 PM

Would I be right in saying that at that altitude the turbo engine has a huge advantage over an NA version due to the turbo compressing the thin air and compensating for it, which the NA versions cannot.

Give me the Jag XF anyday, they are horn, inside and out.

Yellow_Festiva · 18-10-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Would I be right in saying that at that altitude the turbo engine has a huge advantage over an NA version due to the turbo compressing the thin air and compensating for it, which the NA versions cannot.

Give me the Jag XF anyday, they are horn, inside and out.

Look at the history of the turbo... first used in aircraft to eliminate the power loss of increased altitude... go figure.

chevypower · 19-10-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Not a fair comparison in my opinion. They kept referring to the Ecoboost engine as a 'V6'.. I could probably count on one hand the amount of times they mentioned it was a TWIN TURBO engine. The other V8's are NA.. yes?

Then it's pointless comparing anything, as if one wins, it will because of some advantage. Might as well only compare things that are exactly identical.
Ford does pitch it as an alternative to a V8, so might as well put it to the test in my opinion.

GT69 · 19-10-2009, 08:56 AM

I see that test differently, I don't see it as a 6 v 8 thing, more as a cheaper competitor and dispelling the myth of the likes of BMW, showing that you can have a performance luxury car without selling organs on the black market.

As Australian's, we already no this thanks to the G6ET

Yellow_Festiva · 19-10-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Then it's pointless comparing anything, as if one wins, it will because of some advantage. Might as well only compare things that are exactly identical.
Ford does pitch it as an alternative to a V8, so might as well put it to the test in my opinion.

I was more referring to the fact that the engine was described as a mere V6 in most cases. Go to any car guy in the street, say you are running a V6 and a V8 on a timed run, what will win? Most will say the V8, as they did in the clips.

Change the name of the engine to 'Twin Turbo V6' against V8.. what do you think more people would have said would win?

Had you not omitted the second part of my quote, this would have been obvious.