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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Twice today I have had to attempt to start the car 3 times. Turn key, hold it, wont start. Turn back to acc, try again, wont start. Turn key right off, try again and it goes.
Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this? Was a cold day but the car was by no means freezing, the plugs and leads are all around 10,000km old (had new ones put in before i picked it up) and there's no other signs of it running like crap etc etc. I'll be taking it back to the dealership but I think this may be one of those niggly little problems that only ever happens when there isnt service personnel around (i.e. when it can be fixed). Also whil we're sort of on topic has anybody had experience with aftermarket ignition leads for Focus?
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I think it is a safety mechanism for the Foci that it wont allow you to go stright from accesrories after a non-start to ignition on again.....
same thing happens to me if my Foci doesnt start first time...have to go all the way back to off position and then return to ignition on. dont stress about it if its a once off.....start to worry when you have to try turning your Foci over a few times before it starts.
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not good to hear. melbzetec has magnecor ignition leads on his car i believe. They're definitely aftermarket.
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Yeah, i wouldnt be asking if it was a rare occurence but it has done it twice today and at least 5 times before that.
And when you're parked in the Main St with the bogans going past in their Commos and your shiny clean car isnt starting, its not a good feeling!
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Yeh I have Magnecor silicon ignition leads. Never had a single problem with them. Never missed a beat. I can't say they make any performance difference. It's just a thing I do........I always replace those serviceable items that car companies can save a few bucks on in manufacture, by putting in premium items. eg leads, air filters, spark plugs.etc. I just think it makes everything run that bit sweeter
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Are the keys coded?
Have you tried the spare?
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Gary, Ive never used the spare yet and its hard to make it do it. Will only fail if Im parked in a busy spot with lots of people around, or so it seems.
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My '03 Foci has just under 25K on the odometer and has the same problem. Including the automatic choke not operating on start up but when you select reverse it operates but only for a very short time. I've had the E.C.U. re-programmed twice now and the same problems with un-even revs whilst you're driving occuring, which makes me think there is a software problem with the electronic throttle. Are there any T.S.B.'s that can fix these problems??
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maybe its an auto issue? I have a manual zetec and cant say I find any ignition problems.
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Both our manual and auto do it. Seems to occur more when our cars have already been used for the day.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Back onto your trauma, It could be an ecu to inhibitor switch issue? I have had similiar issues on two of my BA's.. One it turned out as Minge touched on, was an issue with the programmable key, the other was a royal butt muncher, there was a stretched wire in the loom that went to the cluster. It was so tight in the harness that it was beginning to pull the pin out of the loom plug. Very intermittant but the frequency increased but 2 days later and a $600 auto elec bill we isolated the wire causing the problem..
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nope, manual Foci does not require the clutch pedal to be depressed to start (although alot more cars these days are now incorporating such).
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I'll go see what I can find out today, hopefully there'll be a TSB for it if its common.
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Hi Zetec,
Hope all is well. Oh, a manual cable throttle! Someone's given me a b**-steer. |
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i recently bought a 2003 lx sedan 2.0 auto and i have noticed the same problem , (thats how i found this forum) it has happened to me after driving home from work (100km 0 twice now when i try to restart car within about 20min to 1/2 hr. my car was parked on sloping driveway ( uphill) not in flat garage. could that have something to do with it?
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has anyone actually had a Ford technician look at this problem yet and was there any offical response as to why it occurs?
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There is a TSB available for it - TSB 69/03 is done to fix this problem and it's basically a flash update deivered via WDS. Im yet to have it done but will be in the near future (just have to find the time to drop the car off).
For anybody who is having this problem, quote that TSB number when asking them to fix it, and ask them to see if your car is suitable for it.
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Hey... Yours in auto isnt it... Maybe it is something wrong with the Park selection??? Tried starting it for Neutral?
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yeah its an auto but its not the gear selection etc that does it.
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