Eco Boost. What are the chances of an F4???????

[tweeked]

Would you want one?

If FPV got 220kw and 430nm out of the fourpotter, the handling should be the best in the stable and the economy still better than the N/A 6.

[pottery beige]

Ummmm... No..

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

Ummmm... No..

Agreed.

[vztrt]

Dont think it would sell.

[Quicksand]

Depends. We know the Focus RS and Focus ST (Focus XR5T in OZ) will be getting the EcoBoost engine to replace the I5 Volvo engine. So if that is the case, FPV may have the option to take the Focus RS and re-badge it as an FPV.

I dont think that will happen though, as i remember FPV saying they would want to make their own. I think i also remember FPV saying they dont want to do it right now. Times are changing though, if they keep dropping models there might be room for other things.

Would i buy one? No, it isn't in line with where i am at in my life (new baby etc). 10 years ago? Definitely on the cards.

[XRGREIGHT]

Well how about a festy with this motor then ?

[TheInterceptor]

in a fiesta/focus, it wouldent be to bad
in a falcon, no no no...

[LightningStrike]

Let me drive a pilot build car first........

[FalconXV]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

Ummmm... No..

I would like one. FPV styling with <200g CO2 and great economy? sub $50k entry price? Also handling benefit of alloy four pot, would be a revelation, I would say. Wouldn't require much tuning either. I hope at the very least for an XR version...

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by FalconXV

I would like one. FPV styling with <200g CO2 and great economy? sub $50k entry price? Also handling benefit of alloy four pot, would be a revelation, I would say. Wouldn't require much tuning either. I hope at the very least for an XR version...

cool.. just dont put an FPV badge on it...

[pottery beige]

i will wee my pants the first ecoboost GT mock up i see...

[Transfiguring R]

I'd want it in a Focus for sure, but not in a Falcon, as others have said.

[JutroXR8]

I can't see it happening. At least ya thinking outside the box!!

[g220ba]

The ecoboost is designed to boost the eco credibility of the falcon and ford in general, so there is next to no chance of there being anything to do with fpv or even an xr variant.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

cool.. just dont put an FPV badge on it...

Well at least wait until the coyote is common so the GT will be quicker than it......

[Franco Cozzo]

Chuck the 2L EB4 into the Fiesta, 170Kw in a 1090kg car O_o and chuck a FPV badge on it.

[Grippy]

In a Focus or Fiesta yes, not in an FPV thanks

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Grippy

In a Focus or Fiesta yes, not in an FPV thanks

What if FPV started selling hot versions of Fiesta and Focus?

[Nikked]

Yes.


But that would depend on the I4 sales. IT would be interesing to see, it would probabally fit better at the 'GS' end of the range.

[Windsor220]

If they put on a T66 turbo with NOS and a Motec system exhaust then maybe.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by flappist

Well at least wait until the coyote is common so the GT will be quicker than it......

haha, beat me to it.

[FalconXR6]

I wouldn't tick the ecoboost option in a regular Falc', let alone and FPV.

Would look at it in an XR4 Turbo Focus for this missus if I had the cash and need for a second car though...

[GTP-814]

there would be enough room in the engine bay for two of them to make a straight 8

[chevypower]

If the EB 2.0 could output those figures (and I bet it can), that's the same power as the original gen 3 (which seemed to be thought of as powerful) and slightly less torque, but remember the gen 3 was quite 'peaky' in it's torque delivery, whereas the EB motors have peak torque from 1700-5000rpm. Couple that to a nice 6+ speed auto, it's going to be faster than a VT series 2 SS.

[fou_bleu]

In a nutshell... Yes.

I may be the world's biggest Ford fan, but unlike others, I am one that was introduced to this obsession in the 21st century and feel no obligation to have to have something like a V8 just to go fast. Though, a turbo 6 does the job! lol

I think a 'XR4' model as such (done properly) would do the same to the Falcon as the new 2011 Explorer - it would reinvent it, start a new following and continue to be a game changer. This is, I believe, why the EcoBoost engine is a no brainer for the Falcon and is required if you want to be able to keep the Falcon alive for at least another 50 years...

EDIT: Another thought just occurred to me - why not coincide this with the all new Falcon in ~2016 - a new lightweight aluminum chassis and other weight saving measures that mean the EcoBoost WOULD be just that - an Eco AND a Boost. Add in All the latest Ford technologies and this thing wouldn't need to be bench marked against the Commodore - it'd need to meet up with the German trio... Ford has a upset on their hands, but are they playing the observation game too hard???

[Quicksand]

Originally Posted by 84ltd

The ecoboost is designed to boost the eco credibility of the falcon and ford in general, so there is next to no chance of there being anything to do with fpv or even an xr variant.

I'm assuming you mean a Falcon XR variant? The EcoBoost is meant to be replacing the Volvo I5 engine in the Focus ST (the Euro version of our XR5T) so it will most likely make it into an XR variant, albeit a Focus XR5T.

[burnz]

HSV astra with a T4 didn't sell that well, considered a flop.

an FPV falcon?? holden would only hope.

[StrokedXT]

As stated by others FPV fiesta would be awesome, in a falcon ill give it a miss.

[Carby]

Originally Posted by chevypower

If the EB 2.0 could output those figures (and I bet it can), that's the same power as the original gen 3 (which seemed to be thought of as powerful) and slightly less torque, but remember the gen 3 was quite 'peaky' in it's torque delivery, whereas the EB motors have peak torque from 1700-5000rpm. Couple that to a nice 6+ speed auto, it's going to be faster than a VT series 2 SS.

Ohh great it will be marginally faster than a 10 year old car............

Things have moved on, and a FPV 4 cylinder performance Falcon just doesn't seem the right fit.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by FalconXV

I would like one. FPV styling with <200g CO2 and great economy?

Geez, the nazi green police have managed to brainwash a gas guzzling Falcon driver with their crap.