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Old 06-08-2010, 11:57 PM   #31
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Probably. What are the specs of the proposed US Statesman police vehicle?

On another note, it is going to be interesting here being a one cop town with the only vehicle being a Ranger. Looks like he might be catching up on paperwork.
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Old 07-08-2010, 12:16 AM   #32
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The centre of gravity in the Vic Police vans is much lower, and development was as a direct result of the Northcote Van crash already referenced.

Pic Here: http://www.auspolcars.info/index.php...s_crewmanct_03

That is the old model, based on the VZ crewman. As there is no VE crewman, the current model is based off a VE Omega ute. Cant find a pic, but the pod on the rear is basically the same.
some of the Qld crewman pods have been recycled crudely to fit onto 4wd hiluxes......
http://www.auspolcars.info/index.php..._crewman-ct_01
http://www.auspolcars.info/index.php..._crewman-ct_02
next time i see one on a hilux, i'll see if i can get a pic
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Old 07-08-2010, 12:43 AM   #33
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Ford can't release the replacement Ranger (T6), which has FOA developed dynamics, soon enough. Why it has taken as long as it has is beyond me.

Maybe these one rolling over are being driven at the speed limit rather than to suit the conditions and the vehicle.

Driving at exactly the speed limits always safe though, right.
Just like driving above the speed limits always dangerous [/sarcasm]
With you 100% Raptor. I'm getting tired of these people who keep focussing on speed as the be all and end all of crashes. Driving to the conditions and situation is the the crux of the matter, not some arbitrary speed figure. Granted, impact speeds have a dramatic effect on the outcome of accidents but its not why we crash our cars. I wish the government would expend as much money on that message instead of the one dimensional speed campaign.

Clearly those plastic boxes badly effect what is already a compromised handling package on those Rangers, and the Rodeos before them for that matter. Clearly the officers are not driving these vehicles within the limits of their capabilities. Bring back the Falcon Panel Van thats all I've got to say on the matter!
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:18 AM   #34
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Use these vehicles for what they are intended for..
Besides nearly every time a Police "sedan" vehicle gets there first..
I guess it's the younger officers driving these vehicles also...

Check the rear suspensions on these vehicles...
Just as primitive as an XD Falcon..
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i had an xd............never crashed it
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Old 07-08-2010, 02:31 AM   #36
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i had an xd............never crashed it
Aha so did I .. An ex chaser also...
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:56 AM   #37
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i dont see why you guys are so quick to bag out leaf suspension, the biggest advantages of coils are ride comfort and compactness
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some of the Qld crewman pods have been recycled crudely to fit onto 4wd hiluxes......
http://www.auspolcars.info/index.php..._crewman-ct_01
http://www.auspolcars.info/index.php..._crewman-ct_02
next time i see one on a hilux, i'll see if i can get a pic
Yep I've seen that too, they've taken the whole rear tub off the crewman and chucked it onto a hilux talk about cost cutting.
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:37 PM   #39
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If ever you have driven something that has people siting up that high and they are flopping about all over the place, it makes it hard to control. and with fools of the like in the back of these, some times they do try to do there best to try make it crash.
The load should be secure and down low like people are in a sedan.
It's got bugger all to do with the suspension. bring the weight down lower and make the people sit secured.
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Old 07-08-2010, 02:53 PM   #40
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Thats all well and good but what about the rollovers when there is noone in the module.
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i`m thinking a Hummer would have fitted the bill?
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Old 07-08-2010, 04:54 PM   #42
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I drive a lot of these dual cab utes for work, and I honestly think you'd be better off spending 20 k on a chinese one.[/QUOTE]


The chinese ones are cheap knockoffs of these utes anyway how is that better???
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:05 PM   #43
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Sounds like the cops are getting their cars confiscated for hooning..
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I drive a lot of these dual cab utes for work, and I honestly think you'd be better off spending 20 k on a chinese one.

The chinese ones are cheap knockoffs of these utes anyway how is that better???[/QUOTE]

I dont think he is saying they're any better, but why pay $50k for a 4X4 ute that will be identical to a $20k Chinese rip off
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cant be any worse than what they use at the moment. They are using 3 star safety utes when most passenger cars are 4 or 5, combine that with rubbish steering, crap drum brakes, crap suspension, tall centre of gravity, rubbish grip, no electronic aids. It shocks me that a first world country would use vehicles like this as an urgent response police vehicle.
They are not for this purpose...
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i dont see why you guys are so quick to bag out leaf suspension, the biggest advantages of coils are ride comfort and compactness
Can be made much better with radius rods, panhard rod or watts link..
Or better suspension control.. Leaf springs flex laterally too..
I would looking at the driver tho !!!!!
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in sydney this morning, and saw one being driven. So they certainly not off the roads.
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Thats all well and good but what about the rollovers when there is noone in the module.
Maybe the silly buggers are using them as a pursuit vehicle.
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The Ford Ranger is a crap vehicle. It is small inside and underpowered. They go ok in the bush on rough tracks and the good thing is that you can hose the poop, spit, vomit and wee wee from the pod. There is precious little else though.
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