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30-05-2010, 07:31 PM | #1 | ||
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G'day guys.
Finally I have done 3000km and had my first service. So no it's time to void the wty looking at a flashtune injectors and wastegate actuator (heard of problems with stock item and more boost) also possible a cat later on but not now some type of cooler and piping but keep stock airbox Cars stock other than XR8 snorkel box and K&N what am I missing here? Anything else I should be looking at? Realistically what gains will I be looing at car did 13.05@110.62 stock with 1000km on it also can you let me know what $$$ I'd be looking at via pm is fine and lastly for the above tune injectors and maybe cat ( want to keep the cat back stock) when can you do it and how long will it take Thanks heaps btw I'm pretty local so anytime is good |
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31-05-2010, 08:23 AM | #2 | |||
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beautful choice of car mate, anychance of you shooting us a PM with your number? and we can get to your enquiry straight away. Regards Chris
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06-06-2010, 03:42 PM | #3 | ||
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Andrew firstly congratulations on the car mate,
just wanting to say that you have gone down a very good path by choosing BPR, Chris and Theo will do there absolute best to keep you happy and the car safe. I have had my FG turbo ute tuned and serviced by them and couldnt be any happier. Car always runs consistant and hasnt given me a problem. i feel very comfortable in leaving my car with them and know they will treat it like their own. FYI my car in standard form made 235rwkw and left there with 276rwkw, from a tune, BPR airbox, and injectors. Looking at putting a exhaust, Plazmaman cooler and Valve springs next. Go speak to them Andrew and they will point you in the right direction with your G6et. All the best bud, feel free to Pm me for any other information. Regards, Omer |
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06-06-2010, 05:19 PM | #4 | ||
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She goes in tomorrow
Just going to do tune for now and injectors if needed Then I'll see how I go Might sell my bike and get a scooter lol The go back for much much more, not that it's needed |
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07-06-2010, 04:26 PM | #5 | ||
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All tuned up today ended up with ummm..... I think 275.9rwkw tune only and minimal boost
Gained almost 60rwkw down low! Goes really well time to head to the track soon to see what it'll do Massive increase in midrange now it goes harder on 2/3 throttle than it did before at wot... Somewhat disappointed though, thought it'd rip my arms out but it's as smooth as factory but with more torque everywhere! It ran a 13.0 stock by the feel of it a 12.5 should be easily had, it's even dosed a few times lol I thought you need to block off the bov for that. |
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07-06-2010, 06:22 PM | #6 | ||
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Thanks for sharing andrewg6e
Well done guys - great numbers for just a tune. What did it make stock? Any dyno sheets for me to drool over? Cant wait till mine gets the treatment.....
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07-06-2010, 06:58 PM | #7 | ||
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They had no ink
Made 244kwatw stock I'll post them up when I do go back and get them though.. |
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07-06-2010, 07:01 PM | #8 | ||
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Great result Andrew. Enjoy her!
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07-06-2010, 08:01 PM | #9 | ||
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Congrats!
A tidy result there with street-able drivability - the perfect combo for such a car. BluePower do it again...... |
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07-06-2010, 08:06 PM | #10 | |||
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Andrew Sounds unreal Any chance you could give me an idea what cost was involved Might just have to save my pennies !! Cheers Geoff |
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08-06-2010, 07:11 PM | #11 | ||
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That's awesome! Was valve float an issue? I remember seeing a video done by HPF where they tuned an FG turbo to about 270rwkw but they had to lay off the boost up top because the factory valve springs weren't loving it..
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08-06-2010, 07:25 PM | #12 | ||
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no, no problems with the valve springs, but they think if i did injectors and then we wound boost up to say 15psi up from 11psi now then there possibly would be
currently boost hits 14psi @ about the 100km/h mark on the graph then tapers off to 11psi @ max rpm (3rd gear) stock it was 9psi pretty constant |
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08-06-2010, 07:31 PM | #13 | ||
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Great result their.
You would be hitting 4th on the track yeah?If so then doesnt it need to be tuned for more tyre speed in 4th gear.Past that dyno run speed its unknown or is their other graphs? |
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15-06-2010, 12:43 AM | #14 | ||
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Guys can we arrange to get this thing back in for some more psi up top? I've heard of plenty of people on standard valve springs with more than 300rwkw I reckon it's worth a try, obviously some squirters will be needed, maybe we can just throw in a track only tune for the half dozen or so runs I'll do here and there during the year, on the street it's fantastic, but on the 1/4 it's very close to stock, as you up in the rev range so that extra 60rwkw at 3000rpm is useful for only a second then the revs don't drop that far back during changes... so I'm chasing more top end..... Wheel spin isn't an issue either...
Lastly the cyl cut as per factory tune on gear changes has this or can this be altered... |
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15-06-2010, 07:42 AM | #15 | |||
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We have discussed the valve spring problem with you, the car WILL endure unreliability if you wish for more boost with this car. We have had the car valve float on the dyno and we reduced boost. I hope you understand. For reliable power, you need to start looking at some bolt ons, and the first item I would be "bolting on" would be a nice set of valve springs. Then, yes, we would love to see the beast back in here for some more action!!! Any dramas, give me a ring. Chris
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15-06-2010, 10:00 AM | #16 | ||
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Then we shall do that first then. Is it a big job? Approx how long does it take? And do you keep the parts instock.
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17-06-2010, 10:46 AM | #17 | ||
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Valve Springs on a 4.0L T seems very similar to the Pump gears issue with the Boss, some might need it, some might not in other cases, but considering how much a new motor is worth in any case you would be crazy not to do it.
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17-06-2010, 12:29 PM | #18 | |||
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Ive been reading on other forums and taking to other tuners, and most people dont do the valve springs or are not advised to make this change, if looking at 300+ rwkw, surely Valve float may appear and tuners are aware of this, but why not advise their clients? Chris has been the only tuner that i have spoken to that HIGHLY reccomended upgrading the Valve springs, if looking at running more boost. Also, from what i have gathered, 315-320rwkw is when the standard FGt turbo max's out at, people state that they are running 340+rwkw on the standard turbo, this cannot be possible? Looking forward to meeting you all on Saturday for the tune ! Will give you a buzz just to confrim everything is fine, Kav |
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17-06-2010, 12:42 PM | #19 | ||
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I've read of even 350rwkw STD turbo and springs...
I really didn't want to do them as like you mentioned everyones doing 300kw stock springs, but what if! I'm only shooting for 300rwkw, but a reliable consistent 300kw So I'm getting the springs done first then some squirters, then cat, actuator and what ever else... And then the hardest decision which cooler setup? |
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16-08-2010, 02:37 AM | #20 | ||
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Guys we may need to talk soon, car is just to slow.....
I've been able to consistently achieve 0-100km/h in 4.8 sec now since fitting pirelli p zero's in 275's, but it's just slow, well I think it's slow, (edited SM) Doing injectors and springs then retune, is much more of a gain possible until I decide to get a cooler and maybe some sort of exhaust work around summer time.. And is it possible to have 2 custom tunes on that box, I want the both the same but one with the factory torque reduction still enabled Thanks Last edited by SpoolMan; 17-08-2010 at 05:19 PM. Reason: no posting stupid driving behavior on these Forums. |
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18-08-2010, 03:26 AM | #21 | ||
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18-08-2010, 08:41 AM | #22 | ||
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Andrew,
you will need a cat, valvesprings and injectors, the cat will allow the car to hold more boost up top. Then you may want to consider an LSD rear. Chris
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19-08-2010, 12:29 AM | #23 | ||
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If I do the above, how will the XR8 intake and the stock cooler and piping cope, the plan is to do the air box and cooler and piping, but I can't afford to do it all at once so summer time is probably when I'd get the cooler and air box, just want to know though with the above items you mentioned, aside from full exhaust air box and cooler, will we be getting close to 300rwkw and the turbos peak, stock was 244 tuned to 275, 300 would keep me happy till I could dig up some more coin for a modded turbo, then I'd be happy with 330-350rwkw and reliability, cars only just gone 5k so it's not really daily driven, but still needs to be a nicest drive, don't want lag if I can avoid it... I will drop past one day soon to get prices etc... But I've been busy working when people sleep and sleeping when shops are open.
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