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02-09-2010, 10:50 PM | #1 | ||
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Corolla FTW?
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03-09-2010, 12:19 AM | #2 | ||
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^^riiight? Results should be out Tuesday.
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03-09-2010, 12:29 AM | #3 | ||
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I want that 10 seconds back.
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03-09-2010, 08:20 AM | #4 | ||
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10 seconds? Are you on 56k?
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03-09-2010, 09:30 AM | #5 | |||
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Would not expect big things from Falcon, been pretty slow last month. Will be interesting to see Commodore and Cruize sales. A friend of mine bought a Cruize 3 weeks ago, for 25k it is a LOT of car........
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03-09-2010, 05:04 PM | #6 | ||
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/82277/to...r-august-2010/
According to VFACTS, Toyota has once again been the leading manufacturer in car sales. Toyota sold 16,633 vehicles during August 2010, up by 639 units – or four percent – compared to the same month in 2009. This was followed by Holden, who sold 11,146 cars during the same period. It wasn’t as many as Toyota, but Holden did enjoy an increase of 17.3 percent compared to August 2009 sales. Ford took up third spot and sold 8212 vehicles, up by 7.7 percent compared to last year. Other major changes in recent sales were with Aston Martin. In August 2009 the company sold just three vehicles. In 2010, the company sold 18 cars. Lotus also sold seven cars compared to just two from last year, which didn’t have much to do with the Evora, surprisingly. Lotus sold three Exiges and three Elises with the Evora making up the last unit. As far as manufacturers that suffered last month go, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Hummer and Smart saw fairly big drops in sales. Making up the top three biggest declines were Hummer, at 60 percent. Smart, at 64 percent, and Saab, understandably with no cars to sell, selling 98 percent less cars in August 2010 than August 2009. So the best selling car for Toyota in August 2010 was? The Toyota Corolla of course, which was sold to 3520 buyers. The overall best-selling car though was the Holden Commodore which was sold to 3674 buyers. |
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03-09-2010, 05:24 PM | #7 | |||
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August VFACTS: SUVs drive market 12 per cent higher
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03-09-2010, 05:38 PM | #8 | |||
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Ford Locals Falcon 2344 Territory 1093 Ford Utility 876 Total 4313 GMHolden locals Commodore 3674 Holden Utility 1220 LWB ?? Total 4894 + LWB It is disappointing to see Commodore continue to lead despite it's obvious to us shortcomings versus the Falcon. On a positive note, nice to see Territory consistently at or over 1,000 sales a month. Can't wait for the revamp and diesel.
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03-09-2010, 05:39 PM | #9 | ||
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CRUZE outselling FALCON! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-09-2010, 05:40 PM | #10 | ||
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C'mon corolla....Knock commodore off......
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03-09-2010, 05:51 PM | #11 | |||
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he has also put an order in for a top of the range mondeo so that is one i know of that will show up this month ( sept ) that gmb wont get
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03-09-2010, 10:45 PM | #12 | |||
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Oh dear, Cruze outselling Falcon, I30 outselling Falcon, Corolla, Mazda3, HiLux all outselling Falcon... yet Commodore is still on top, Holden must be laughing with both their full size and mid sizer now moving more units then Falcon. But as long as Ford is making money on every car they sell, the numbers don't really matter.
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03-09-2010, 11:13 PM | #13 | ||
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Where's the Focus and Mondeo ????????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-09-2010, 11:14 PM | #14 | ||
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Those Falcon numbers are terrible..
Less not worry about them & talk about our brand new shiny V8!! |
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03-09-2010, 11:24 PM | #15 | ||
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I sometimes, actually constantly get the feeling that no matter what vehicle the Holden badge went on it would sell. I reckon if Falcon and Commodore simply switched badges the sales figures would also switch, Ford needs to spend some serious dollars in improving their reputation and their overall brand.
This needs to start with the dealer network through better servicing, more reliable vehicles and better promotion of their brand at a grass roots level. At this rate, the falcon will be dead in under 10 years and that will be a sad sad day for this country.
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03-09-2010, 11:40 PM | #17 | ||
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How is this possible? Have people not seen XR50?
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03-09-2010, 11:44 PM | #18 | |||
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Whilst I would jump on the bandwagon and call Ford bordering on incompetent for selling so few Falcons (compared to its competitor) and shake my head at the same tired old excuses the usual apologists bring up, one point needs to be made clear: taken in terms of Ford's global sales for the month, the Falcon will be in the top 15-20 models in the total Ford empire. It was 16th last month. That's out of what, 60 or more badges worldwide. It is only 2000-odd units shy of the Taurus' monthly volume, and that is in a market that is a fraction of the size of North America - 22 million people versus 360 million odd. So who is not pulling their weight now? Marketing aside, perhaps Falcon's numbers have contracted to this volume because that is what it can sustain for its particular niche, in its segment. Because lets face it, the Falcon is a niche product now, even standing on its own in the large car segment. But if it drops lower than it is, Dee-troyt will most likely query whether or not that threshold has been reached between profitability of the marque and the viability of continuing operations here.
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04-09-2010, 01:55 AM | #19 | ||
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the way i see it there has`nt been much big news until recently ,the coyote should make some inroads, eco boost engines comeing soon these should give a boost to sales also.
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IF Falcon sales contunie at this rate,when the new Territ comes out I think territ will be the best selling Ford product on a regular bases.. |
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04-09-2010, 02:40 PM | #22 | |||
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Focus - 727 Mondeo - 440 Falcon - 2,344 Escape - 150 Territory - 1,093 Falcon Ute - 876 Ranger - 1,464 Transit - 197 Mondeo's position in the Mid-Size car market this month: Top 10 Selling Mid-Size Cars: 1. Toyota Camry - 1,955 2. Mazda 6 - 485 3. Ford Mondeo - 440 4. Subaru Liberty - 429 5. Honda Accord Euro - 307 6. Volkswagen Passat - 295 7. Volkswagen Jetta - 240 8. Skoda Octavia - 151 = 9. Hyundai i45 - 148 = 9. Suzuki Kizashi - 148 Holden Epica - 89 |
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04-09-2010, 02:57 PM | #23 | ||
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When you look at the sales for the mid size segment the mondeo is doing rather well in the scheme of things. The camry will likely not be knocked of its perch in the near future due to the government fleets and cardigan brigade buying them in droves.
All in all a reasonably average month from ford. Next year with so many good new vehicles enetering the market for ford we should hopefully see some solid growth. |
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04-09-2010, 03:24 PM | #24 | ||
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Its been said before, Commodore sales = a lot of fleet sales/station wagon sales, if you compare actual commodore sedan vs. falcon sedan sales, the sales are very close, and I think a few times the falcon sedan outsells the commodore sedans month by month.
An article example: http://www.caradvice.com.au/47710/fo...me-in-4-years/ |
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04-09-2010, 03:25 PM | #25 | ||
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Does the FPV & HSV sales figures get released as well or are they included in the total Falcon and Commodore overall sales considering they source the cars from Ford and Holden respectively?
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04-09-2010, 04:08 PM | #26 | ||
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Holden are maintaining relative good figures for the commodore range, but at what costs. Quite a few thousand has been knocked off the price of the commodore range in the last half year, to maintain half decent sales figures. And remember, these are from prices that werent even making Holden money then, imagine what losses they are racking up now.
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04-09-2010, 05:53 PM | #27 | |||
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04-09-2010, 06:17 PM | #28 | |||
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I opened the Sydney Heard Motor section today & on page 2 I see SV6 at 35,990.. This has been the price of the XR6 for 12-18 months... So your point is not valid in my opinion, becuase Falcon & Commodore pricing seems to be very similar!! |
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04-09-2010, 06:36 PM | #29 | |||
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I think both Ford and Holden would have made similar smallish profits. When you look at it, the volume products of both sell for similar amounts, Holden has more low end fleet sales but they also have more high end sales too. each counterbalancing the other... In many respects, Ford Australia is like its parent, right sized to true market amounts where as Holden follow the traditional model of chasing every fleet and high end sale. While Ford sales look modest in comparison, they are probably achieving at least the same bottom line with a fraction of the manufacturing time and effort, something the balance sheet supports. Last edited by jpd80; 04-09-2010 at 06:46 PM. |
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04-09-2010, 07:07 PM | #30 | |||
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