Casuual (Labouring) vs Full Time/Part Time Work

Ralliart · 22-10-2010, 05:10 PM

hey guys, just wondering who prefers Casual then Full Time/Part Time work, in my earlier thread i was a little annoyed after what happened to my last job but since then i have registered to about 5 Employment Places and now finally got work coming out from everywhere

, my question is?, would you work casual temp or work Full Time, I prefer Casual to be honest every since my job History screed up because me leaving Woolworths Bad mistake

, ive been apping for Job after job and getting no-where because this Job market is so very annoying

, tried my old job constantly and getting nowhere since they scrwed me over by Saying DO NOT RE-HIRE on my exit interview which i was so annoyed at

, anyway started registering for these employment places, getting more calls work than i worked as Full timer, only bad thing there is no annual leave days off, but i don't take days off,

What do you guys Think?

Dezza · 22-10-2010, 05:21 PM

I've been in my current job for 12 months, 9 months of which have been fulltime. Honestly I prefer fulltime. At my employer, we have been flat out for about the past year but suddenly it's gone quiet. The company has had to lay off employees left, right and centre. This of course is the casuals. Being fulltime, I have job security. I know it's going to pick up again in which case they'll have to hire more casuals. Building up annual leave is nice too.

Kryton · 22-10-2010, 05:56 PM

Ill keep my full time job over casual any day of the week.
I know when im working, i know what im going to get paid, i know how many weeks annual leave i get and i can do O/T whenever i want.

While casual pay may be good, knowing that you have job security is more important.

302 XC · 22-10-2010, 06:17 PM

They both have good and bad points,its really up to an individual and circumstances which is better
My last job i was there 14 years full time unlimited O/T
The boss was nearly belly up and was saved on the 24th hour
If he wasnt saved ,all the staff would have lost everything (long service,super contributions,ect,ect)
Being fulltime in that instance would not have helped

g220ba · 22-10-2010, 06:34 PM

I'd strongly prefer full-time mainly for job security and benefits.

I've tried both for various preiods of time and unless i absolutely have to i'll never go back to casual.

74_XB_Ute · 22-10-2010, 07:31 PM

Full time for me. Easier when its tax time, job security, easier to obtain finance for larger investments like houses. Usually when you work full-time for a larger organisation there will be some sort of employee agreement outlining pay, leave, sickies, long service, redundancy...etc so its good to know where you stand between yourself and your employer when full-time.

gtfpv · 22-10-2010, 07:58 PM

no comtest . fulltime = a real job , where you can live like you percieve . in other words buy a home and call it yours . try doing that as a casual , try getting sick when your a casual ? try booking holidays when your a casual, try industrial relations when your a casual, try having a bad day at work when your a casual ? starting to see the patternm forming here ? ask your boss if he prefers you to ba a casual = GUES WHAT HIS REPLY WILL BE ? guess what the bank would prefer you to be ?
see the pattern ?

xy500 · 22-10-2010, 07:58 PM

another for full time, some employers will use casual contracts just so they can save money in the quiet periods by giving casuals less or no work.
I'm only a few months into my first full time position, and looking forward to payed holidays!

74_XB_Ute · 22-10-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

no comtest . fulltime = a real job , where you can live like you percieve . in other words buy a home and call it yours . try doing that as a casual , try getting sick when your a casual ? try booking holidays when your a casual, try industrial relations when your a casual, try having a bad day at work when your a casual ? starting to see the patternm forming here ? ask your boss if he prefers you to ba a casual = GUES WHAT HIS REPLY WILL BE ? guess what the bank would prefer you to be ?
see the pattern ?

Exactly!

onfire · 23-10-2010, 01:28 AM

Full time. Easily, full time. I know when I'm working, I've got my base salary, and potential financial incentives. That, and theres potential for growth, education and advancement in the company. And I could relocate to any part of the country and successful find some form of work within the company.

That and little things like knowing you've got a steady pay check, the option of saving money and being able to live life without the stress of thinking about where and when money is coming into the household.

And I think long term full time employment would make it a lot easier to apply for loans.

302 XC · 23-10-2010, 09:26 AM

Fulltime,has it benefits definately
But the neighbour and his son are roofing on a contract bases
They are earining way way way more than roofers on wages
They dont have any issues what so ever
They earn enuf that borrowing money is not an issue
They earn enuf to near take 6 months of a year and still life very comfortable
Only downside is weather
They work like trojans 7 days a week while the demand is their,have a break when the weather goes bad
Comparing this (these guys are earning 1,000s and 1,000s a week)
To the average worker who gets under 1k(or even 500)a week is not a fair comparison
Hence why i said depending on the individuals situation

Security of full time,
Is only as good as a couple weeks pay and your send on your way
Seen it happen
Some people prefer to be on casual rate ,(it pays more)
Then theres contracts ( 6 -12 months )ect
Even some employers go the casual route
Theres even something where you work 40 hours a week with no benefits
(casual fulltime ,i think its classed)
Yep no benefits
No holidays,nothing towards long service,40 hours work for 40 hours pay

Bud Bud · 23-10-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralliart

I prefer Casual to be honest every since my job History screed up because me leaving Woolworths Bad mistake

You have answered your on question really but you will need to figure out what works (pun intended) for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtfpv

no comtest . fulltime = a real job , where you can live like you percieve . in other words buy a home and call it yours . try doing that as a casual , try getting sick when your a casual ? try booking holidays when your a casual, try industrial relations when your a casual, try having a bad day at work when your a casual ? starting to see the patternm forming here ? ask your boss if he prefers you to ba a casual = GUES WHAT HIS REPLY WILL BE ? guess what the bank would prefer you to be ?
see the pattern ?

+ another

Personally I would always seek the security of a permanent full time position over a casual job even if the short term benefits do out way the permanent full time job. But for long term plans you will need a more permanent solution.

Bud Bud

Ralliart · 23-10-2010, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud Bud

You have answered your on question really but you will need to figure out what works (pun intended) for you.+ another

Bud Bud

Well at the moment Causal , as i have gone through so much interviews and unable get past their interview stage and being so much a tough market out there right now, i will hopefully get a full time job in the near future but at least i have work, i was driving myself crazy going to interview to interview and not getting past them.

xy500 · 23-10-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 302 XC

Fulltime,has it benefits definately
But the neighbour and his son are roofing on a contract bases
They are earining way way way more than roofers on wages
They dont have any issues what so ever
They earn enuf that borrowing money is not an issue
They earn enuf to near take 6 months of a year and still life very comfortable
Only downside is weather
They work like trojans 7 days a week while the demand is their,have a break when the weather goes bad
Comparing this (these guys are earning 1,000s and 1,000s a week)
To the average worker who gets under 1k(or even 500)a week is not a fair comparison
Hence why i said depending on the individuals situation

Security of full time,
Is only as good as a couple weeks pay and your send on your way
Seen it happen
Some people prefer to be on casual rate ,(it pays more)
Then theres contracts ( 6 -12 months )ect
Even some employers go the casual route
Theres even something where you work 40 hours a week with no benefits
(casual fulltime ,i think its classed)
Yep no benefits
No holidays,nothing towards long service,40 hours work for 40 hours pay

contractors are a whole different ballgame. Severance packages will vary depending on how long you have been full time. I'd like to see you get long service leave from a casual contract.

302 XC · 23-10-2010, 07:28 PM

Long service leave
Seriously how many people are employed on permanant fulltime bases with same employer for 10 years ???

gtfpv · 23-10-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 302 XC

Long service leave
Seriously how many people are employed on permanant fulltime bases with same employer for 10 years ???

ME . 18 years and counting . to put it in perspective i've been paying a mortgage for 17 years too , with some years to go as yet .
i'm only 41 , but when i entered the job market at 16 . everyone was full time , and that was considered a good thing .

Addz08 · 23-10-2010, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 302 XC

Long service leave
Seriously how many people are employed on permanant fulltime bases with same employer for 10 years ???

Well almost, Up to 8yrs now..

xr8-200 · 23-10-2010, 08:35 PM

I dont know your situation, but casual work is better than no work.

Ralliart · 23-10-2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xr8-200

I dont know your situation, but casual work is better than no work.

Agreed

**ebxr8240** · 23-10-2010, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 302 XC

Long service leave
Seriously how many people are employed on permanant fulltime bases with same employer for 10 years ???

30 years and have all the long service !!!

jason71 · 23-10-2010, 10:29 PM

20 years and counting here.

8 months of long service leave accumulated.

Just over 1000hrs of sick leave available, that's after being off work for 3 months last year with a broken wrist.

svo supporter · 23-10-2010, 10:30 PM

Casual workers get more money per hour to cover holidays/sick leave etc etc.

However fulltime is more beneficial in the long run.

As for long service. I went 8 years in the same tyre company (an industry known for staff turnover) before I called it quits. Change of ownership saw me leave otherwise I would have stayed longer. Oh and long service leave is 10 years minimum, with a top of 15, unlike state award which is 7 years with a top of 10

302 XC · 24-10-2010, 10:22 AM

Some of you guys with accumulated sick leave hours,wow your lucky
Some employers nowadays dont let any hours roll over to the next year
Use them in that year or loose them
Although there are a small hand full in this thread with long employment duration,im wondering if a poll was initiated how the cards would stack ???

kermey · 24-10-2010, 02:52 PM

Just incase people dont know this but you can get long service leave if your casual and work in the construction industry.

http://www.lslboard.com.au/

I know this is for WA but i was told there is the same setup in each state and that you can transfer your time if you change states for work.

To answer the OP's question, I dont know whats better for you mate but for me casual is the way to go.

Good luck in finding something you like.

Cheers

Jestr75 · 24-10-2010, 07:53 PM

I have done both and each has been good for me, but at the end of the day fulltime work is best for my sanity and the wifes.

svo supporter · 25-10-2010, 07:19 PM

Sick leave is capped at a certain number of days. (Not sure of the number). Those sick days are surposed to be carried over to the next year, however they can't be added to after a certain amount have been accured, and can't be claimed upon once you leave the employer. If an employer refuses to carry over those sick days into the next year, the employer is in the deep end.

So 302 XC. If you are in this situation, the workplace ombudsman would love to hear about it. Or anyone else for that matter. It's simply against the law to do it.