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Does any one have a reconmendation of how close you would set up a 4 poster to a wall, ie the front and one side, got to put one in a unit corner but not sure how much room I need to leave to work around.
My thinking is that the front can be put up close to the wall, as if you want to work on that end of the car, you would just turn the car around.
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(900mm from the sides, 2.5 - 3.5 mtrs to the front depending if you want a workbench in front or not. Ive got both in my shed, a two poster rated at 4.5 tonne asymmetric, and a four post 6.3 tonne with jacking beams. I use the two post for most work, supension etc, the four post for inspections, services etc, I install, service and repair vehicle hoists for a living. My advice would be buy the best hoist you can afford, if buying new sometimes spending a few hundred dollars more will reward you in the future. if any one needs advise dont hesitate to p.m. me as im terrible at not returning for days sometimes weeks and the thread is long gone. |
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This is the one Im looking at http://www.carhoists.com.au/hoist.html
I am 188cm so the lift height of 1820mm sounded good. Would it work with the work benchers being on wheels and off to the side, I don’t have much depth in the unit to work with, once the hoist is in it only leaves me with 4.7 m between the hoist and the roller door, Too short for a second car plus it will be an area for large steel fabing jobs. ![]()
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I often used a 4 post hoist at work and there was about 1-2 metres between it and both walls.
As others said, it has jacking platforms so you can take the wheels off, e.t.c. Sure it's not as "versatile" as a 2 post hoist but you feel much safer using one. It's also great for lowered cars compared to the 2 posters where you have to basically lift the guards and hope the pads catch the sill. If space is an issue, then the 2 post would probably be better. We used Molnar and Tecalemit hoists.
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I am also looking a hoist for the garage. Primary reason is my acute lack of space, so I want to be able to put any project car up on the hoist and park the daily driver underneath. Naturally I can also use the hoist to work on the car and others.
I am considering a 4 post hoist with rolling jacks: • Very stable. • Half the pressure on the concrete. • No cables or frames on the floor • Can place drip trays etc to protect the car underneath from drips and debris. • Posts won’t obstruct doors on the car underneath. My Garage ceiling is 36 courses, which is about 3.5m. Typical 4 poster lifts about 1.7m, but some models designed especially for storage will lift upto 2m. So I’m hoping that provided neither my daily driver nor project are Discos I should be able to fit two cars vertically. |
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If you are going to use it for long term parking, perhaps 4 post is the way to go.
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Mate of mine is getting a removable 2 post hoist for around $3.5K, looks like a very stable little unit. I agree with others on here, the 2 post give more work room but the 4 post would be better if you want peace of mind.
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I got my 2 post 2nd hand for $1300 cost about another $200 for a single phase motor and some wiring to install it. Mines mounted against the wall of the shed, and it still gives plenty of room down the left hand side for pretty much every bit of work you would need.
As the hoist is alot wider than the car itself the wheels are a distance from the wall allowing wheels and suspension work to be done easily. If you really need the room on one side, simply reverse the car into position. Heres my setup. ![]()
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Looks about 31~32 courses? Can you get another car under the one on your hoist? What is the lifting height of your hoist? |
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My ceiling isn't as high as I would like, My wagons prob got another 10cm to go up there. I can fit my ED under the EF if I take the wheels off.
I cant stand up straight under mine due to ceiling but and I'm 6 foot. So we got old computer chairs and removed the backs, so we just roll around at a comfy height. If you put up little cars eg Nissan Exa you can walk under it without hassle, as it goes up to full height. Falcon roof turret is problem with my beams on roof.
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nice setup and a very clever way of utilizing space
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I've been dreaming of putting a 4 poster outside for years. One of my pet hates with 2 posters is trying to get out of the car. |
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I have both 2 and 4 post hoists at work and I do the majority of work on the 4 poster.
The 4 poster has jacking beams. The beams are perfect to use, especially with gearbox changes, as you can rest the gearbox on the jacking beam/s and move it towards the motor. I have no issues doing suspension work, or even simple oil changes with the 4 poster. The only downfall with a 4 poster is room. Otherwise, it's perfect for everything to do with undercar work.
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But that means the top beam has to be very high to allow for tall cars at maximum lift.
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#45 | ||
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Thanks Dazz, I never think of 2 posters with a top beam.
That reminds me of a corny makeshift ladder. A mate put me up on his hoist, I opened my sunroof and replaced a couple of fluros for him. |
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#46 | ||
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we've been looking into hoists ourselves for our shed. we are going with MOLNAR hoists as they are australian made and are the best on the market. a 3 phase 2 post is $5,200 before installation and it can lift 3.3 tonnes
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Molnar are great hoists, there was an old molnar in Dads shop when he brought it 15 years ago, and it was his every day hoist up until the government inventmant alowance saw a cabel repalcment and new pads costing only $200 less than a new Peak clear floor with higher capasity and 4WD attachments fully installed.
The Peak hoist has been great and hasnt gien any issues in the time he has owned it but you can garontee it wont last as long as the Molnar Coincedently he sold the Molnar on ebay as is (busted) for $1200 so that sort of tells ya how good they are when a new one is $5200
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