Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 26-11-2010, 05:06 PM   #1
lamborghinifan
Regular Member
 
lamborghinifan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: QLD
Posts: 392
Default Wind Deflectors for Towing

Just wondering has anyone had any experience with using any sort of wind deflector on the top of their car when towing a trailer/caravan?
I have an older type van that isn't very aerodynamic and was wondering if people thought they made a difference or not to drag/fuel use etc.
Pics are Good too:-)

lamborghinifan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2010, 05:12 PM   #2
ltd
Force Fed Fords
 
ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Enroute
Posts: 4,050
Default

If it goes above the outline of the towing vehicle then yes, use a deflector.
__________________
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to power an ants go-cart a half a lap around a Cheerio - Ron Shirley


Quote:
Powered by GE
ltd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 01:57 AM   #3
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,011
Default

Based on my limited understanding of aerodynamics, I don’t believe these work, and may actually make it worse.
The deflector itself will generate drag, possibly serious drag if you get a low pressure zone behind the deflector. Then when it hits the van you get the same impact you would without the deflector.
Unless the deflector was very large and extended all the way back to the leading edge of the van, it is unlikely to be effective. Plus it will be noisy.
__________________
2024
Making Whine from the Tears of Hippies
Crazy Dazz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 07:10 AM   #4
The Yeti
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
The Yeti's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: In my happy place
Posts: 5,432
Default

these were a real popular site in the 70's & 80's on top of falcons & Kingswoods / commodors towing vicounts, franklans and Millards up and down the coast each Christmas
__________________
Pariahs C.C.
What could possibly go wrong

I post images with postimg.cc (so I don’t forget)
The Yeti is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 07:49 AM   #5
aquahead2001
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
aquahead2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,301
Default

Had a Friend with one and he swore by it.

My experience with the negative effect of aerodynamics when towing came when I went from towing my 15' poptop with a standard EF wagon to a Tickford lowered AU wagon, which was about 50mm lower the EF I think. The EF towed my van pretty well, but the AU struggled. It always felt like it was getting pulled backwards with the van's drag.

The only difference I could attribute to the poorer towing capability was the additional frontal area of the van that was "in the air" due to the lowered wagon. Always wanted to try a deflector, but I never did, I got a Territory instead
__________________
2012 PX Chilli Orange Wildtrak, 2006 SY Territory TS AWD, 1974 HQ Ute & 1964 Fairlane 500
aquahead2001 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 11:33 AM   #6
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

anything is worth a try in my book, towing one of those big old vans i towed up north with the xr6 pulled the weight easily, but the wind drag at 100 kph it doubled the fuel consumption.
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 12:51 PM   #7
flappist
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
Default

Remember the majority of the drag is from behind the vehicle.

Look at the shape of a wing or a fuselage.
flappist is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 05:38 PM   #8
lamborghinifan
Regular Member
 
lamborghinifan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: QLD
Posts: 392
Default

Well i've done some tinkering this afternoon and whipped up a bit of a deflector. running up and down the same stretch of 100k road in the same direction I tried the deflector up and down. My conclusion is that the terry definitely does not work as hard staying on 110 with the deflector. bit hard to get anything in the way of fuel figures but it's worth the 5 bucks the scraps cost to build it. (I'll pretty it up now I know it works)
Actually last year I towed the same van with my ute which is much lower, and I whipped up a deflector from the top of an A/C unit spur of the moment/night before. Because i'd never towed in that configuration before I had no comparison but the bug splatter seemed to say that the wind missed at least some of the van. The terry's extra height doesn't actually help because I've had to lift the van with oversize rubber to keep the rig level. Pics attached.

Last edited by lamborghinifan; 09-05-2011 at 12:34 PM.
lamborghinifan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 06:27 PM   #9
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,011
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lamborghinifan
I've had to lift the van with oversize rubber to keep the rig level.
Couldn't you have lowered the hitch with a different tongue?

Maybe you should write to mythbusters with your hypothesis?
__________________
2024
Making Whine from the Tears of Hippies
Crazy Dazz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 08:06 PM   #10
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

that looks ok.
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2010, 09:45 PM   #11
bigsta
Making superman jealous
 
bigsta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bondi
Posts: 1,323
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

I had a HZ kingswood wagon years ago with one of those the only difference i noticed when i took it off was that the rear window would get dusty easily and if the tailgate window was down it would suck in exhaust fumes.

I cant remember if it sucked in the exhaust or not with the deflector on though.
__________________
If life deals you lemons dont complain just get on with it and make lemonade

2006 SY Territory Ghia AWD in ego with roof mount DVD, tints, 7 seats, iPod input

2005 Crewman Cross 8 with 350 cubic inches, AWD, black on black rims on black leather, tints and polished racks
NEW TOY Bayliner 185, inboard 3L 4 cylinder pushing us along at 50MPH whenever i get a chance

I love Aussie cars and are gonna really miss them soon.......
bigsta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 12:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL