Qantas jet lands after part of engine falls off

[ltd]

OK, now for something completely different.
Those of you who are avid fans of aviation check out the links to the official airbus reports and illustrations of the damages. http://www.flight.org/blog/download/...e-Overview.pdf

There's a second report with panel part numbers etc which can be downloaded here:
http://www.flight.org/blog/download/...ingtopskin.pdf

These links also provide pictures of the damaged wing spar.

[vztrt]

If your worried about QANTAS then read the following.

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/trav...130-18edn.html

[Mickxr8]

Far out !, are we done Qantas bashing yet ?
might want to have a look at what else has been happening aviation wise ?
lets see. delta,india, TSA . thats all i can think of atm..

[JC]

Originally Posted by mickxr8

Far out !, are we done Qantas bashing yet ?
might want to have a look at what else has been happening aviation wise ?
lets see. delta,india, TSA . thats all i can think of atm..

Since their maintenance has been outsourced, their record has not been great. Admittedly, the 380s are like their car namesakes - a manufacturing glitch, rather than the fault of the airline.

[Mickxr8]

Originally Posted by JC

Since their maintenance has been outsourced, their record has not been great. Admittedly, the 380s are like their car namesakes - a manufacturing glitch, rather than the fault of the airline.

Ok
couple of things ,,
i`m not a big fan of qantas and its outsourcing
i`m not gonna rehash 7 pages of this thread but fair go ?
I think they dealt with it fairly well considering
the problem seems to fall back on r/r and to a lesser extent airbus.

[old_mate]

they still carry out at least 80% of their heavy maintenance in Australia, most of the jumbo's get checks done in avalon and the 767/A330's in hangar 3 in brisbane. They have done it this way for yonks. Im former maintenance engineer, my father is career licensed maintenance engineer. The unions keep dropping the overseas story to the media as leverage, there is quite a few EBA's being tabled/due/in the courts around the airline at the moment and its become a very ugly war between the airline and its employees. Particularly here in brisbane with the qantaslink engineers, soon to be followed up by the domestic terminal engineers, maybe even the international guys are up soon too.

What used to tick us off as maintenance guys here in australia, is when a plane would come back from overseas maintenance to sit in a hangar in sydney for a few days so that any works not completed/done poorly were rectified.

[Jason[98.EL]]

taken from ninemsn

Qantas is ready to sue the maker of its A380 engines, Rolls Royce, alleging new rules for its engines mean it can only carry 80 passengers across the Pacific in its Airbus 380s.

Qantas says it will sue Rolls Royce if the pair cannot agree to a settlement figure for losses caused by November's mid-flight explosion, the Herald Sun reports.

The airline filed papers in the Federal Court on Friday saying it bought the Airbus superjumbos because they could carry 450 passengers from Australia to the US.

But the new rules mean the superjumbo is not worth using on flights to the US.

Qantas, which began discussions with Rolls Royce this week, said it was keeping all options open to recoup its losses after its A380 planes were grounded and operational constraints imposed.

Qantas is fighting for damages and is also seeking a court order for Rolls Royce to fund a $1 million credit note guaranteeing against "uncontained engine failure".

In its statement, Qantas said although Rolls Royce continued to modify the Trent 900 engine, it failed to update 23 engines on Qantas' jets.

When the A380 engine exploded near Singapore mid-flight on November 4, only one engine on Qantas' jets had been modified.

Qantas was forced to ground its A380 fleet after the incident.

The airline agreed on Wednesday to undertake one-off engine inspections , on top of the mandatory inspections every 20 flying cycles that were imposed by an international airline safety directive.

Engineers suspect a defective engine part caused November's explosion.

The incident has cost Qantas tens of millions of dollars in lost earnings due to cancelled flights and restrictions on the number of passengers A380s can carry.

[mik]

it will be interesting to see how this turns out, if they can only have 80 people on their main hop , then what is the alternative, will they give the Rolls engines the kyber pass and fit different engines that will do the job?

[old_mate]

Nah, once its a rolls, it stays a rolls. They keep them on the deck until they can permit them to fly with a full payload of pax, and sue rolls for much money.

[MexicanBatman]

Originally Posted by mik

it will be interesting to see how this turns out, if they can only have 80 people on their main hop , then what is the alternative, will they give the Rolls engines the kyber pass and fit different engines that will do the job?

Without the trent engines it'd have to be de rated anyway, so if they fit the other ones they don't produce the same thrust and you see.... Be kinda like taking turbos off the XRt's and running N/A..... Ok not quite but you see what I'm getting at

[motomk]

Originally Posted by old_mate

Nah, once its a rolls, it stays a rolls. They keep them on the deck until they can permit them to fly with a full payload of pax, and sue rolls for much money.

Was reading about the 787 being able to plug and play so to speak! They will be able to fit different engines as long as they change the pylon I think it was. No need to swap the electricity and computery things!!

[AWD Chaser]

Damn... The media has been jumping on aviation related issues since the istory broke.

I wish they would give it a rest...

Failures happen all the time... its just the severity that changes... And fair enought this A380 was a near disaster....

If the newpapers jumped on every incident that our military aircraft have, there would be a daily section for it in the newspapers!

[Charliewool]

Is it true that this aircraft was that badly damaged that it's been totally written off?
AND ending up as a museum piece in Singapore?

[old_mate]

i doubt it - Qantas have a habit of putting airframes back in the air because a airframe loss turns it from an incident to an accident

I have read it could be a 73 million dollar repair bill though, and ultimately it's up to the insurers.

[jcxr]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Is it true that this aircraft was that badly damaged that it's been totally written off?
AND ending up as a museum piece in Singapore?

Heard the same thing yesterday Charlie.

[old_mate]

http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-reporting...write-off.html

i'd say at this point the post about the LAME's from Australia rotation monthly in SIN would be the most correct, and if a scrapping were to happen, then it would more than likely be bought by airbus/RR therefore solving Qantas' issue of scrapping it themselves.

Reading that back however makes it seem pretty far fetched.

[Mickxr8]

found this today
interview with one of the pilots. interesting read

http://www.aerosocietychannel.com/ae...m-the-cockpit/