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Old 12-02-2011, 09:22 PM   #571
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Interesting to note that the people commenting on the change to the rep system all seem to be either donating members, or moderators.

I don't know if it means anything (maybe rep means a little bit more to us than Joe Bloggs who just wants to know how to get the door trim off his Laser) or not, just an interesting observation.

I would like to say though that I'm with Gecko and disagree with points of any kind being issued for any attendance.
Perhaps we just care more about our forum.

I for one don't appreciate having been criticised openly because I have a high rep, apparently this makes me one of the select few and therefore I get treated differently and allowed to get away with anything. If anything, the exact opposite is true.

This is an issue that we did not have before the rep system was bought in.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:44 PM   #572
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well said mark i am a donating platinum member i went to that status for no other reason than the forum has helped me out so i thought that would help the forum in some small way i think some people should take a chill pill and just enjoy the forum for what it is a way for enthusiests to help each other i have made a few friends on here and allways enjoy meeting members at shows or functions everyone has their own agenda for being a member so just enjoy it ps i didnt even know what the smilies etc were and i dont really care but know i do i would give them out to people who have helped me a member helped me the other day sent me a pm to a post i put on and went out of there way to help that deserves reward just my 2cents worth cheers gary
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:04 PM   #573
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An interesting debate.

1. in GT's original post she said
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Likewise, there are those who contribute by their actual physical attendance and support of forum events and that contribution is not recognised under the current system either.
I'm not sure how this managed to be hijacked into a comment about event attendance being more valuable or worthy of recognition than anything else so those who misquoted the original comment or quoted Gecko GT's should have had the courtesy to read the original comment rather than comment on a misquote.

2. The only change made this morning (that started the bitching) was to cap the rep a member could give to the same level as admins instead of the ridiculous situation whereby some could issue significantly more simply because the admins are capped - thus the change was about introducing equality. Seems that even this minor change was deemed unacceptable by some.

Effective immediately, the user reputation system is canned for the following reasons:

1. While the system has been valuable for some it has also been open to some fairly widespread abuse. If I were to share some of the comments that have gone along with rep then I feel sure that there would be very few fans of the system left.

2. The rep system calculates a users rep power every time a thread is viewed - in other words it is not a stored value. This means that in an average day there are 16,250,000 calculations performed simply to display reputation power and frankly this is a significant load on a server that is currently struggling to keep up.

The forum is a community and like all communities there are different motivations for involvement by each member. None the less there are those who go out of their way to be helpful to others or who contribute in other ways to the community spirit and thus we will review what other methods are available for recognition of those who contribute their time, skills and experience to the forum.

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Old 12-02-2011, 10:12 PM   #574
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i appologise russell if i said anything to offend cheers gary
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:14 PM   #575
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Thumbs up, definitely more hassle than it was worth. Added bonus if it is clearing sever speed aswell.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:14 PM   #576
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That applies to me as well, no intent to offend at all. Just commented on things as a part of the discussion based on how I read the authors point.

If I got it wrong or offended, I dod not mean to and apologies.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:16 PM   #577
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No offence taken Gary. Like all things we try out here there is need for review to see whether they work or not and as the forum continues to evolve there will no doibt be some other things we introduce that work and some that don't.

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Old 12-02-2011, 10:46 PM   #578
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i reckon rep points were good... especially when you needed to trust someone when asking "how to re-build a 5.4L boss V8" or something..
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:49 PM   #579
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I had the third highest rep points on AFF but I could not give you technical information on re building a Boss, other members had a lot less rep but could give quality advice. My point is rep does not really help in that instance.
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fair enough. i see your point..

i still liked my "Is an XR, Sporty and Worthy of respect"
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:59 PM   #581
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Fantastic idea!
I never really liked the rep system anyway, infact, i had aquired about 3 smilies in the last two days which i thought odd as the posts i had made didnt really deserve recognition, they were just honest opinions.

I gotta be honest, when i reached F6 status i was wrapped, however, i was concerned to learn it meant i was not to be underestimated. Now, anyone who's followed my forum career would know i should definately be underestimated...

Great work guys, keep it up!
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Dramatic change, but for the best i'm sure.

No doubt there are a couple of members here who are going to be bloody annoyed at this.
They know who they are and i'm sure everyone else has a pretty good idea too, but change is good and i'm sure in time those people will come to realize that it means nothing.
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:14 PM   #583
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I was pretty ambivalent about the reps system, Though I rather liked some of the comments people placed in my CP when adding to rep.

Wont miss it really........
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A positive move forward me thinks....

Is it just me or is AFF loading like a machine gun stuck on auto.....
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Funny you say that,i havnt hit any speed humps tonight!
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was just thinking the same thing.
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2. The rep system calculates a users rep power every time a thread is viewed - in other words it is not a stored value. This means that in an average day there are 16,250,000 calculations performed simply to display reputation power and frankly this is a significant load on a server that is currently struggling to keep up.
Fantastic!

In some ways I am a little disappointed its gone, but hell I'd rather see a faster forum than a bunch of smilies under someone's name!
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And on a positive note , someone like iliov who had seventy million red faces is now the same as us ..
Everyone deserves a second chance..

Now that the rep system is gone Russ how about resetting everyones warnings as well ..
And lets see if anything has been learned from this exercise ?
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Now that the rep system is gone Russ how about resetting everyones warnings as well ..
And lets see if anything has been learned from this exercise ?
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Nope ..... thats a different kettle of fish and not going that path of discussion. Totally different to what the smilies were .....



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So it really was the rep of "the big three" crashing the server?
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And on a positive note , someone like iliov who had seventy million red faces is now the same as us ..
Everyone deserves a second chance..

Now that the rep system is gone Russ how about resetting everyones warnings as well ..
And lets see if anything has been learned from this exercise ?
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as dave said, warnings are NOTHING to do with rep.
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.................. and so comes to the conclusion of the little green smilies as there really is not too much more to add. .... except some yellow ones as a memory.



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