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10-03-2011, 03:25 PM | #1 | |||
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10-03-2011, 03:35 PM | #2 | |||
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10-03-2011, 03:38 PM | #3 | |||
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10-03-2011, 03:40 PM | #4 | ||
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EPAS is going to be a struggle in the Falcon.
There just isn't enough room, however EcoBoost might help that.
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10-03-2011, 03:45 PM | #5 | ||
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I can think of a whole lot more things I'd want before that park crap, c'mon people learn to drive, I can reverse an a330 into a hangar in the dark with 2m either side of the wingtips, I can more than comfortably parallel park my car... I'd rather that money be spent on something silly like massaging seats, of maybe a bigger fuel tank and one touch UP windows, even $2 Korean cars have them
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10-03-2011, 04:01 PM | #7 | |||
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I doubt ford will put it just on ecoboost and not I6. Yes I6 days are numbered but if they wanted to keep FG I6 EPAS free they would have left it off the I6 in RWD territory you'd think....
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10-03-2011, 05:55 PM | #8 | ||
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Wouldn't it need front parking sensors first before it got this auto parking feature?
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10-03-2011, 06:11 PM | #9 | ||
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This parking thing came with my wife's Merc. At first, I thought it was a bit of a ****, but it really is useful. If you are trying to find a park quickly, it will confirm that the size is correct, and when you use it, you can duck in very quickly with minimal risk of touching either car or the curb, or annoyance to the driver behind.
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10-03-2011, 06:18 PM | #10 | |||
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Auto assist park is a techy thing but it gets people talking in the lunchrooms and watercoolers at work, just as the VW advert that launched last month. People need to be taught to associate Ford with Technology. Whether the traditionalists (as many on here are) like it or not. If Active Park Assist or whatever acronym they come up with helps people consider a Falcon or Territory then it is a very good thing. It takes away the 'it's too big to park'.
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10-03-2011, 06:21 PM | #11 | |||
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10-03-2011, 06:29 PM | #12 | ||
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Come the next re-body whatever form it takes, its gone.
2015/16 is when that should be. |
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10-03-2011, 06:47 PM | #13 | |||
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10-03-2011, 10:19 PM | #14 | |||
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10-03-2011, 10:34 PM | #15 | ||
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I rarely reverse park so I don't see this as necessary. Plus I am confident with my reverse parking skills.
I mean I got a licence, and that is pretty much the only thing they test you on. |
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12-03-2011, 04:39 PM | #16 | ||
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if all cars start with this junk, does it mean the reverse park will be scrapped from the driving test.
I can back a Semi into a driveway, blind side in the dark
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12-03-2011, 06:21 PM | #17 | |||
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I may have slightly edited your quote ;) But seriously I'm getting tired of this technology thats driving the car for you, it creates poor drivers Remember un assisted drum brakes, manual steering, column shift manuals, I do and I'm not even 30 and I've owned many cars with all that, i was talking the other day at work how I prefer column shift manuals to floor shift manuals on a regular cruiser, and some new kid didn't even know what column shift was, nor had a manual license, wtf... Nothing like a tight reverse park on a hill in your 1966 ap6 valiant column shift manual with only factory driver side guard mounted mirror to raise a little sweat.... Not like my FG which has power everything and beeps at you telling you your going to reverse into that barina and passenger side mirror that dips so you don't scratch your optional 19" rims |
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12-03-2011, 06:27 PM | #18 | ||
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Look, parking isn't a knob measuring contest.
If someone in front of me is struggling to park and a bit of technology gets them into the parking space in one go then all the better. We should be thinking that this type of technology gets people out of our way quicker. That has to be a good thing. |
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12-03-2011, 06:38 PM | #19 | |||
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the EB I-4 replace the I-6 in the Territory in the next 12-18 months, by then diesel will have the majority of sales and petrol buyers will be looking for more economy. There is a strong rumor getting round that there is insufficient room for the EPAS on Falcon due to the location of assist motor on the rack, not the steering column so adequate width and height is needed to locate it. I suspect that the room is not there with the I-6 Falcon but the EB-4 might be OK. Anyway, we will find out soon. |
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12-03-2011, 06:42 PM | #20 | |||
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12-03-2011, 06:52 PM | #21 | ||
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EPASS is a new feature, drive assist is not included yet, it is coming so get used to it.
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13-03-2011, 03:29 AM | #22 | ||
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Parking assist doesn't seem to work that great in the real world from what I've seen.
It's like watching grandpa after grandpa park their Mini in a Range Rover's parking space. Ridiculous garbage that is a waste of space and weight. Can the I6 speculators give up the doomsday theories too? Thanks The smart ones will not buy a 4 cylinder front-wheel-drive Falcon if the I6 is gone.
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13-03-2011, 06:10 AM | #23 | |||
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13-03-2011, 08:16 AM | #24 | ||
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EPAS eh? I wonder if the Falcon/Tez will also get radar guided cruise and blind spot monitoring/lane change assist?
All we'd need then is to have the government lay out "guidance strips in the paint" on all our roads and to have Ford install an 'intelligent' cruise control, then we can use Google Earth on our Sync consoles to punch in our destination and go to sleep until we're politely awakened at our destination. I can imagine a day perhaps sometime in the next 50 to 100 years when it will be mandatory to have Intelligent Cruise in a car before you're allowed on a dual-carriageway highway, and that all highway speed limits will be raised to 220 - 300km/h. With no human error involved we'll all be safely home twice as quickly. It's funny how every time new technology appears on a Territory or Falcon all the drum-brake and I6 lovers start speaking up. I hope that has nothing to do with why the rest of the universe thinks there aren't enough high-tech features on Australian cars. Because everyone on the planet should be able to reverse semi's and Airbuses shouldn't they. Or should we be recommending "Blokey Chestbeaters Anonymous" here? Lukeyson
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13-03-2011, 08:52 AM | #25 | ||
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You know, I recall a big thread awhile ago regarding a wish list of features. I don't think EPAS event rated a mention?
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11289211 Lukeyson
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13-03-2011, 09:21 AM | #26 | |||
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13-03-2011, 11:12 AM | #28 | ||
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Some people buy diesels because they like them, get easy performance
from the low down torque and also feel the resale will be much better. I wouldn't count the I-6 out just yet, the 6-speed auto in the RWD has been needed for years so maybe that's all that is needed for people to come on board with the new package. all I'm saying is that if Ecoboost does well in Falcon, there's a possibility that the I-6 could be replaced at a later date giving buyers even more fuel economy without needing to buy the diesel - buyers not needing to tow that is..... |
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