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21-03-2011, 09:47 PM | #1 | ||
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You know, I always thought AU's needed boot spoilers, but the longer I spend with my new Fairmont, the more I like the no spoiler look.
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22-03-2011, 01:00 AM | #2 | ||
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it all comes down to taste. personally I feel an AU looks incomplete without a spoiler the rear is too "soft" looking
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22-03-2011, 12:20 PM | #3 | ||
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Spoilers are so 2003
When I got my AU2 in 2006 (back when AU's weren't old!) we had a spoiler in the shed and my boss said to me 'that's yours!' and I was all 'no thanks!'. All spoilers do is crack the fibreglass, decrease rear visibility and wreck your boot struts. Absolute wastes of time. But hey, there's plenty of people on this forum that will do far stupider stuff to their cars in the effort of 'looks'.
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22-03-2011, 01:18 PM | #4 | ||
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I absolutely agree with AU3XR6 as far as the pure look of the spoiler...
Everytime I see a sedan without one, I think to myself how 'bare' they look! I've had one on my AU2 since almost new (2001), and I've had no problems with rear visibility, or with the boot struts! Though they are no use at all as far as 'spoilers' are concerned, they do absolutely add to the 'complete' look of the car. Cheers |
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22-03-2011, 01:29 PM | #5 | ||
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Yeah, I got one on mine to square the back up. Too round for my liking.
These days I look at the drivers of au's without spoilers and am pleased that I took the plunge (present company excepted, of course)... |
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22-03-2011, 02:42 PM | #6 | |||
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22-03-2011, 02:57 PM | #7 | ||
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Easy equation.
XR/T = Spoiler Lots of people go for the full kit with no spoiler and while its ok it just makes a T/XR look like a mock up or something. The kit needs it to finish off the look. Hmm love the Full tickford kit with the bi-plane spoiler
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22-03-2011, 03:28 PM | #8 | |||
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22-03-2011, 03:59 PM | #9 | |||
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It all comes down to personal taste. I reckon the AU's curvaceous butt is not the eye sore alot of people make it out to be. It looks particularly nice in Ghia trim.
The beauty of the AU is that with anything other than the T3, or bi-plane spoilers (series 1 XR/series 2 Herrod) your rear view will still be unobscured. Quote:
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22-03-2011, 04:57 PM | #10 | ||
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I personally couldnt have one without a boot spoiler.. I dont like the AU back end without one at all.. Way too curvy.
Id luv to see if a BF/FG Typhoon or FG GT type spoiler would sit right on an AU bootlid.. FG GT rear spoiler looks a little more refined over the B series GT rear spoiler.. I found the B series ones are just at a not quite right height when looking out the back..
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22-03-2011, 05:39 PM | #11 | |||
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22-03-2011, 06:52 PM | #12 | |||
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22-03-2011, 07:28 PM | #13 | |||
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22-03-2011, 09:13 PM | #14 | ||
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the only AU's i've known with spoilers (my father in law's AU1 spak and my old classic) both had cracks. plastic aye, not much better.
i'm still firmly intrenched in camp 'spoilers sucked even back when they were cool a decade ago'
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22-03-2011, 09:25 PM | #15 | ||
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250,000km or so and not one crack and still on original boot struts.
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22-03-2011, 09:43 PM | #16 | |||
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i gotta agree with putting spoilers on AUs i personally am one of those who like the sleek curves of the AUs i fell in love with them when they first came out for that exact reason but with a butt like an AU has it just looks incomplete without a spoiler, even moreso if you have a body kit on it front and rear bars on AUs are plastic as well and ive never seen or had any issues with them or the spoilers cracking ever unless someone has done something to them and you are meant to use the stronger boot struts for AUs with spoilers |
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22-03-2011, 09:54 PM | #17 | ||
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Maybe someone used the spoiler as a boot handle ?
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22-03-2011, 09:58 PM | #18 | |||
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I upgraded the boot struts after my wife "closed" the boot, shortly after putting the spoiler on. If there's an issue with au spoilers cracking, maybe that's it. Certainly no problems with mine, thus far... |
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22-03-2011, 10:02 PM | #19 | |||
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22-03-2011, 10:08 PM | #20 | ||
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Personal preference is with spoiler, but then again mine came from factory with the Tickford kit..
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22-03-2011, 10:12 PM | #21 | ||
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see, how can you not love that rear end ;)
i really like the pod insert things too on those kits either side of the rear wheels great pic by the way jimmyd |
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23-03-2011, 12:05 AM | #22 | ||
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A friend of mine once said he thinks AU's without rear spoilers look like cockroaches..
That said, I must also say B series cars look rubbish without them aswell..
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23-03-2011, 11:46 AM | #23 | |||
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While I agree they look better, I'll never put one on mine, if you've seen as many bolt on fittings as I have that over time create rust on the panel to which they are fitted you would give it a miss, some survive longer than others, depending on how well they're sealed by the fitter, but even these compounds shrink and break down over time allowing water to seep in, pre-drilled holes should always be primed/painted before fitting, typically roof racks bolted direct to roof turrets, they hold moisture under the gaskets, you won't always see rust signs until it's perforated thru the panel, then again this would be of no concern if you are fortunate enough to replace your vehicle every 3 or 4 years, it then becomes someone else's problem, the next owner is shocked to find what looks like minor rust stains turns out to be a very expensive repair, then again with the amount of AU's in wrecking yards you could always pick up a second hand boot lid, but if it needs to be colour matched, something like a metallic colour, your spoiler desire will cost you a few hundred dollars by the time you buy it and get it colour matched. if any of you remember the old cars with the chrome / anodised bolt on metal body mouldings, you should also remember those tell tale rust stain streaks running down from nearly every hole where the clip to moulding was fitted. |
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23-03-2011, 12:09 PM | #24 | |||
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Any other model not fitted with a kit looks far better without a spoiler IMO. |
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23-03-2011, 12:17 PM | #25 | |||
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not an issue with mine as it is factory fitted but if retrofitting all you need is a bit of galmet in the holes as soon as you drill them this will stop rust from starting
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23-03-2011, 12:25 PM | #26 | ||
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Ive never been a fan of spoilers. But found that without at least a series 1 bobtail spoiler on the back of my car it looked some what naked. I never liked the XR spoilers. To me, subtle bobtail style spoilers are a better option.
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23-03-2011, 06:56 PM | #27 | ||
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i have to agree with that too blueoval, i much prefer the stealth look of the bobtail spoiler to the more agressive XR one
and im really not a fan of those biplane spoilers at all i think they just make it look way too overdone |
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23-03-2011, 09:20 PM | #28 | ||
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I agree that the cars with bodykits need a spoiler. Mine doesn't have a kit, and won't be getting one. It's just that when I got the car (5 weeks ago) I had planned on fitting a boot spoiler, or preferably buying a bootlid with a spoiler already fitted. However, I've gotten used to mine without one and think I can live without one.
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23-03-2011, 09:23 PM | #29 | ||
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Hey blueoval, I've just started reading your build thread - nice car.
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24-03-2011, 09:02 AM | #30 | ||
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i was gunna buy a ba xr6 rear spoiler for my au, but then i decided i like the spoilerless look. nice clean un obscured lines.
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