security on au 3 fairmont

i have been reading around that alot of au model fords are being stolen. does any one know the security features on the au 3 fairmont?

[sfr rob]

i actually thought it was quite hard to steal them!?

just get a good alarm and dark tint!

[The Monty]

I thought the same. Dont they come with a standard immobiliser?

[sfr rob]

pretty sure mate!
100% sure actually!

something to do with the smart lock feature our cars have... dont know what it means though! LOL

I can tell you that stealing an au is quick and simple,I had my au2 xr6 stolen,was told by ford that all that was required was a blank key from ebay for $10. attach it to a laptop, then thiefs wireless scan the cars puter,get the code,dump it on the key, smash the window as the key will only start the car, and drive away,15-20mins tops. The code for the car can be scanned as far away as 20m,so as long as no one see's them smahing the window,no one is any wiser.they could be parked in another car in the car park beside your car.I advise every one to get a club lock of some sort. And just as a foot note, try getting your insurance company to pay out is a nightmare, even when you can supply both sets of keys.they also dont believe these cars can be stolen. I was lucky and got mine back,minus 19inch mags,mobile,log books,money,cd's ,kids toyseven,but in return got $3000 worth of damage, the car ran out of fuel and the police believe this is the only reason the car was dumped.

[richo77]

Now thats what you call dedication to car theft! imagine what these dickless wonders could achieve if they used their intelligence for good.

[Stav]

Being an installer and car security specialist since 1991 I can guarantee you that they can be stolen. I have always advocated an aftermarket security system ,totally seperate from the factory systems.Ba fords are no different.The problem is in peoples attitudes and trust that the factory alarm is soo good..Well it is not.

[Chippar]

Originally Posted by lms10

I can tell you that stealing an au is quick and simple,I had my au2 xr6 stolen,was told by ford that all that was required was a blank key from ebay for $10. attach it to a laptop, then thiefs wireless scan the cars puter,get the code,dump it on the key, smash the window as the key will only start the car, and drive away,15-20mins tops. The code for the car can be scanned as far away as 20m,so as long as no one see's them smahing the window,no one is any wiser.they could be parked in another car in the car park beside your car.I advise every one to get a club lock of some sort. And just as a foot note, try getting your insurance company to pay out is a nightmare, even when you can supply both sets of keys.they also dont believe these cars can be stolen. I was lucky and got mine back,minus 19inch mags,mobile,log books,money,cd's ,kids toyseven,but in return got $3000 worth of damage, the car ran out of fuel and the police believe this is the only reason the car was dumped.

How can you switch on the ignition with an uncut key that won't even unlock the door?

I always thought that a key had to be cut to fit a lock to be able to unlock the doors or switch on the ignition to complete a circuit and send power to the starter motor etc.

It's not much good whether the key desponder is programmed if you can't firstly, turn on the ignition switch, to allow the code to be sent to, and be received and accepted by, the security system.

chippitydip, the information that I posted was given to me by ford as well as a security system installer, I am not going to argue any point of what I have posted, believe what you will, as I am only interested in securing my car....not yours.

[buickman]

Originally Posted by useless

Being an installer and car security specialist since 1991 I can guarantee you that they can be stolen. I have always advocated an aftermarket security system ,totally seperate from the factory systems.Ba fords are no different.The problem is in peoples attitudes and trust that the factory alarm is soo good..Well it is not.

Your right there they can be stolen or broken into easy.

My problem was they diidn't smash the glass. They went through the locks & cost me another drivers side door handle & lock plus cost of paint to match for a lousy melways & then they dropped it on the ground near the car, So I got my car damaged for no gain to them. Motto is don't leave anything of value for theiving eyes to see & keep your glove box locked.

buickman

[The Monty]

I can tell you that stealing an au is quick and simple

15-20mins tops

I do beleive you 100%, but I dont see how it is either quick, or easy.
I thought quick and easy would be getting a screwdriver, unlocking the door af a Torana, unlocking the glovebox with the screwdriver and stealing the wallet, and starting the car with the same screwdriver and drive away?

[sfr rob]

i have got a hornet alarm installed.. i am pretty sure it has imobiliser also.
I didnt know it was easy to steal our cars...
I am guessing that the signal stealing thing is similar to the part in Gone In 60 Seconds?

i read somewhere here that some guy walked to his car pushed his button and the car beside his opened also! LOL
hows that for a fluke!!!

[Chippar]

Originally Posted by lms10

chippitydip, the information that I posted was given to me by ford as well as a security system installer, I am not going to argue any point of what I have posted, believe what you will, as I am only interested in securing my car....not yours.

I'm not doubting for one minute that you got that information from ford, we all know what to do with their information, but you now state that a Security Alarm Installer also told you the same thing, so I guess it must be right, and not to be questioned further.

I'd hate to go through life taking everything that I've been told or read as correct without question, and disregarding any reasonable theory that may be offered, not as to be argumentive, but in a constructive and helpful manner. And yes, I know you are only interested in securing you car, I do believe you, and top marks for doing so.

[Casper]

Guys, just a quick idea. Talk about them being stolen all you like but remember this is an open forum and who knows who is reading it. Try not to give and explicit details on how they can steal our cars please.... lets not give the low life scum any ideas.

[Timeshift]

Years ago it was found that the wireless central locking codes could be scanned, recorded on a computer with the appropriate wireless receiver (Around 66Mhz) and replayed back to the vehicle when the owner was gone, thus unlocking the vehicle and disabling the smart locking system.

Car makers caught onto this and decided to strip the smart locking from the central locking, placing the smart unlocking within the ignition key itself.

They then added rolling codes in the transmitters.

Thieves found ways around that by catching one code, then 'spraying' back thousands of known codes and made up codes at a vehicle until it one matched the rolling code and unlocked.

These are old techniques, since car manufactures have developed new codes, code hopping, frequency hopping, spread spectrum devices and added sniffers to the reception program. (IE: if more then X amount of tries have been requested in Y time then the central locking system will ignore all wireless transmissions from the central locking fob for Z amount of time)

As for this comment:

smash the window as the key will only start the car

That defies logic. If the key can not open the car door (IE: blank key) then the key will not turn in the ignition barrel. (IE: Can not start the engine)

The central locking wireless codes are completely different to the SMART security CPU codes hard stored in the ignition key itself!

The SMART codes are stored on a RFID chip embedded n the ignition key itself, powered by an external source, have a very limited range of 10mm or less!

The frequencies used by both systems are completely different and nowhere near any frequency used by computers for their normal wireless communications.

[fairmont1998]

I'm with you Timeshift. Reading transponder codes with out physically connecting to the car or key? Impossible.

[Feathers]

Originally Posted by sfr rob

I read somewhere here that some guy walked to his car pushed his button and the car beside his opened also! LOL
hows that for a fluke!!!

Thats has also happened to me. Though we did the right thing and instead of leaving the other car unlocked, we moved to another spot.

Originally Posted by buickman

& keep your glove box locked.

I actually think that is a bad idea. If you lock it, then that suggests to anyone who breaks into your car that there is something of value in there.
They will then use whatever means to break it open, thereby causing more damage to your vehicle. If there is nothing valuable in there, it's going to make them more annoyed that they wasted time, and who knows what else they might damage just to make a mess.

[Hitman]

I know as a fact that any AU key will lock any other AU, but will not unlock it.

[fairmont1998]

Any tibbe key works like that