UK AU Falcon on eBay

Whiskeyonesix · 16-10-2011, 12:21 AM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-FORD-...item3a6b67f3f6

This has been up previously....

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the running gear is all jaguar

Hmmm.... how's that work then??

JC · 16-10-2011, 11:32 AM

I guess to the poms, only jag makes a 6 as big as 4 litre.

smoo · 16-10-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

I guess to the poms, only jag makes a 6 as big as 4 litre.

Except they were doing twin cam alloy head back in the 1940s. I love my Falcons and wouldn;t swap them for anything, but to say an agricultural live axle rough as guts sohc coon runs Jag running gear is a bit of a slap in the face lol.
At the same time if the AUs had Jag running gear there would be a handful used as taxis, not thousands

**Uncle_Ken** · 16-10-2011, 09:14 PM

Contrary to this false ad, I am not selling my car.
They even got the colour wrong

UK

Jimmyd · 16-10-2011, 11:14 PM

Probably got their wires crossed; AU Intech engine was sent over to Jaguar for bottom end resdign - rephased crank to get substantial improvements. If it has the optional IRS there is some heratige there too....

Day-mow · 17-10-2011, 12:13 AM

800 pound bargin

Whiskeyonesix · 23-10-2011, 09:51 AM

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AU Intech engine was sent over to Jaguar for bottom end resdign - rephased crank to get substantial improvements. If it has the optional [COLOR=#F80000 ]IRS[/COLOR] there is some heratige there too....

Now I didn't know that

I might see if I can find any further info about that... interests me..

There's another AU on eBay..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Falco...item27bf707f3a
This guy's living in La-La land if he thinks someones gonna pay the best part of 6 grand for that!
Whats with the green rocker cover?

madmelon · 23-10-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Whiskeyonesix

Whats with the green rocker cover?

Factory LPG

Whiskeyonesix · 24-10-2011, 09:54 PM

Ok cool

Drawn a brank with hunting for info about the IRS setup. Having looked at the schematics of it, it seems very overcomplicated to be something JLR would have knocked together - and to build that into what is a single-market and very low-build car like the falcon. I would have said BMW had a hand in it (wrong era I think....), but I just can't find any info about it at all...

I might post in the "Ford - 6" section about the Jag involvement, but I really dont think anyone would have much of a clue - its fairly obscure

FGII-XR6 · 24-10-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiskeyonesix

Now I didn't know that

I might see if I can find any further info about that... interests me..

There's another AU on eBay..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Falco...item27bf707f3a
This guy's living in La-La land if he thinks someones gonna pay the best part of 6 grand for that!
Whats with the green rocker cover?

that would be a rare car over there most commercials over there are little 4 bangers or diesels an AU 6 would be a speed deamon. and did you see the Ks on it?

Road_Warrior · 24-10-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiskeyonesix

Ok cool

Drawn a brank with hunting for info about the IRS setup. Having looked at the schematics of it, it seems very overcomplicated to be something JLR would have knocked together - and to build that into what is a single-market and very low-build car like the falcon. I would have said BMW had a hand in it (wrong era I think....), but I just can't find any info about it at all...

I might post in the "Ford - 6" section about the Jag involvement, but I really dont think anyone would have much of a clue - its fairly obscure

He may be thinking about the DEW98 platform which Jag adopted but ended up being too expensive for the Falcon. I beleive the AU's IRS has some loose connections to the DEW98 version.

Jimmyd · 25-10-2011, 11:44 AM

Was a Ford service manager when AU was released - internal memos spelled out Jaguars involvement.

Don't have copies any more, but was plenty of press releases around at the time;

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Originally Posted by Ford press release

Falcon's Intech six is one of the most fuel efficient engines over 3.0 litres available, according to Ford Australia's Engine Design Supervisor, David Mitchell.

"During development, we tapped into Ford's worldwide resources including the Advanced Powertrain unit in Ford AVT (Advanced Vehicle Technology) Centre in Detroit, Jaguar with their 50-year heritage in building refined and powerful overhead camshaft in-line sixes, as well as Tickford for the XR engines," he said.

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The crankshaft is a new, stiffer yet lighter, 8-counterweight design with some technology input from Jaguar. The inherent balance superiority of Falcon's in-line 6-cylinder layout over V6 means that the complication of balance shafts is superfluous.

full press release here

IRS was loosely based on the Mustang SVT Cobra IRS, which in turn was a modified Jaguar design. Ford tech dept was cagy about that one, claiming it as an 'all aussie' design;

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Originally Posted by Ford press release

"Once people drive and ride in this car, they will be surprised and delighted and will instantly share our enthusiasm for it," Ian Vaughan said.

"AU Falcon is a world class car line, specifically developed for local and similar conditions but adaptable to others. While Falcon is still the only current car line designed in Australia, Ford Australia drew on the latest of Ford's worldwide leading edge technology and computer resources to help bring the AU from paper to pavement.

"The new IRS in the AU Fairmont Ghia and Falcon XR6 VCT and XR8 is a good example of this process. We studied existing and planned Ford IRS systems around the world, selected the most suitable (which was a new, yet-to-be-launched, state-of-the-art system), then comprehensively changed it to fit into the Falcon and to incorporate further engineering features needed for our local and export environments" he said.

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AU Falcon heralds the debut of Australia's first locally developed, engineered and volume built independent rear suspension (IRS) in a rear drive car.

full press release here

Whiskeyonesix · 30-10-2011, 07:24 PM

Mystery solved! Cheers guys

Mr Hardware · 31-10-2011, 11:12 AM

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agricultural live axle rough as guts sohc coon

i lol'd
so accurate

AlfaRomeoGTV6 · 31-10-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

i lol'd
so accurate

Never a truer word spoken about my baby !!!

AlfaRomeoGTV6 · 31-10-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

Except they were doing twin cam alloy head back in the 1940s. I love my Falcons and wouldn;t swap them for anything, but to say an agricultural live axle rough as guts sohc coon runs Jag running gear is a bit of a slap in the face lol.
At the same time if the AUs had Jag running gear there would be a handful used as taxis, not thousands

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Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

i lol'd
so accurate

Never truer words spoken about my baby !!!