Top 10 Mobile Speed Camera Sites in Brisbane..

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Government coffers boosted by $6m in one year from southeast Queensland's top 10 mobile speed camera sites

by: Lisa Kibsgaard From: Quest Newspapers November 02, 2011 3:00AM


The top 10 mobile speed camera sites in southeast Queensland have netted the government more than $6 million. Source: The Courier-Mail
Motorists in south-east Queensland have handed over more than $6 million in fines from 10 mobile speed camera sites in the latest figures released by police.

47,915 offences were recorded across the region's top 10 mobile speed camera detection sites, resulting in the multi-million dollar windfall for government from March 2010 to March 2011.

The Pacific Highway at Tugun topped the infringement list with 7896 offences.

Gympie Rd at Kedron (5506 offences), Old Cleveland Rd at Carina (5328), the Gateway Motorway at Boondall (5243) and east-bound traffic along Mt Gravatt-Capalaba Rd at Upper Mt Gravatt (4820) came in at two, three, four and five.

The Western Freeway at Toowong (4570), the Logan Motorway at Forest Lake (4357), Mt Gravatt Capalaba Rd at Wishart (3916), west-bound traffic at Mt Gravatt Capalaba Rd at Upper Mt Gravatt (3365) and Hemmant's Lytton Rd (2914) rounded out the top 10 detection sites.


RESULTS: SPEED CAMERA POLL

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Is this revenue raising?
Yes
88.88% (991 votes)
No
11.12% (124 votes)
Total votes: 1115
Loganholme cameras catch 4455


Even if the minimum fine of $133 is used for each offence, the top 10 sites raked in at least $6,372,695 for the government.

The Queensland Police Service insists it does not deliberately conceal mobile speed cameras. (My comment..Oh yes they do !!!)

A police spokesman said misunderstandings over the legalities of mobile speed camera vans ``hiding'' behind bushes or catching motorists speeding down a hill were common.

``Authorised operators of the devices are instructed in the correct set-up and operating procedures,'' the spokesman said.

``For camera operations to be successful the camera view must clearly see the road on which the traffic is travelling.''

The spokesman said the selection criteria for the establishment of speed camera locations was based on information on speed-related crashes.

``It is recognised that in some instances it may be necessary to perform speed enforcement in restricted site locations. Such instances include downhill grades where there is documented history of crashes and areas where there are a number of public complaints relating to the speeding of vehicles.''

Gilshenan & Luton partner and accredited specialist in criminal law Adrian Braithwaite said many people would doubt that the approved camera sites were based upon the location of accidents.

He said many would coin certain sites revenue-raisers instead.

His comments come just two months after the New South Wales roads minister Duncan Gay removed 38 fixed cameras across the state after labeling them revenue-raisers.

Like Mr Gay, Mr Braithwaite does not always see the connection between the rationale for speed cameras and the benefit to the community.

``The message (that speeding kills) is an easy one to market for the government and it makes them lots of money,'' Mr Braithwaite said.

``The government doesn't make money from driver education and teaching youngsters about vehicle control.

``If they were serious about reducing road trauma they would focus on the skills of drivers.''

[flappist]

Getting in first. This thread has the potential to flare up so keep the replies on topic and not argumentative.

Just to make things clear, a comment along the lines of "Don't speed and you won't get caught" or abject vilification of people fined for travelling slightly over the limit will be viewed as argumentative......

[Uncle Niceguy]

hehe when i was in the car the other day going to strathpine a gold commodore was parked behind bushes up on an incline as i drive past i see the lights start flashing goodness only knows how that is "saving lives".


ps. i do hope this is within reason of the T's&C's

[my_gxl]

I took a fine to court last friday. It was a LIDAR (hand held). The cop had one story on his voice recording, and a different version he said in court.

The way the voice recording stated things, there was no way he could get a straight shot at my bike. His so called correct story was accepted by the judge.

Just shows that the police can lie in court and get away with it.

They even said the police policy for use in restricted sites is not actual law, so they don't have to follow it.


The whole system is rigged.


I think if forum members identify locations which are revenue raising instead of safety, they should park legally in front of it. A legal parking manuovre is not obstruction.

Legal protest...people power...the only way left to send a mesage.

[Chopped]

I reckon "they" have almost defeated my will to speed. I've paid too many fines.
Now I just go with the flow and do the usual 40/50/60kph, my brain just switches off and I go into cruise mode listening to the radio, oblivious to my surroundings.

Sometimes the old me comes back and I drive with a bit more involvement, picking the right line through some curves, feel the wheels working, only use the brakes if I really need too etc, this makes me feel alive again.

But I still think "they" are winning.

[Uncle Niceguy]

mabye start a sticky thread in qld section for different mobile speed cameras so we can all identify which cars are undercover and which aren't example:

Champagne gold commodore numberplate tjm123????

something sorta like that???

[my_gxl]

Originally Posted by eb-fairmont

mabye start a sticky thread in qld section for different mobile speed cameras so we can all identify which cars are undercover and which aren't example:

Champagne gold commodore numberplate tjm123????

something sorta like that???

Model? Sedan?

I like your idea.

[El Venom]

They still claim that those locations are selected due to speed related crashes. I am sorry but years of living in Brisbane I have never once seen an accident anywhere near some of those locations and the fact that the gateway location at boonal is usually setup to get south bound traffic as they come down a slight decline while being setup between the bushes in the nature strip just adds to it. No wonder more and more people are claiming they are only there for revenue raising

[dimka100]

I have a question …

Is there a way that individuals can get into the profit bandwagon that speed cameras have become? I mean seriously, instead of buying property I would much rather buy a speed camera and have it installed by govco on one of the main roads … to me it’s seems that the return on the investment is far higher than any other form of investment I can think of.

So the simple question is, can individuals invest money into speed cameras?

[joolz]

Originally Posted by 836Falcon

They still claim that those locations are selected due to speed related crashes. I am sorry but years of living in Brisbane I have never once seen an accident anywhere near some of those locations.

The same happens in all states. My father was done for 64 in a 60 zone that is a sloping, wide and dead straight road (one side houses the other vacant and a train line) in Stawell Victoria. In his 40 years of living there he has never heard of a fatality nor a serious crash on that stretch.

[my_gxl]

Public action required me thinks

[HenryFordJr]

Originally Posted by eb-fairmont

hehe when i was in the car the other day going to strathpine a gold commodore was parked behind bushes up on an incline as i drive past i see the lights start flashing goodness only knows how that is "saving lives".

Yea the Petrie police are shocking, that sergeant in the green SS is so annoying, he hides in bus shelters etc. that guys is everywhere..

[Pedro]

Originally Posted by my_gxl

Public action required me thinks

I've told this story before, but for those that didn't see it ...
I saw a camera car parked on the footpath so I stopped and photographed it from different angles. A cop emerged from it and asked what I was doing and I told him I was photographing and illegally parked vehicle and would be forwarding the photo to the police minister.

To cut a long story short, the camera vehicle was removed from the footpath and all breaches it recorded that day were deleted.

[Lightning Strike GT]

Originally Posted by HenryFordJr

Yea the Petrie police are shocking, that sergeant in the green SS is so annoying, he hides in bus shelters etc. that guys is everywhere..

Not to mention the replaced car - the Seduce FG XR6T he was in, out , under and through everyting as well

[my_gxl]

Originally Posted by Pedro

I've told this story before, but for those that didn't see it ...
I saw a camera car parked on the footpath so I stopped and photographed it from different angles. A cop emerged from it and asked what I was doing and I told him I was photographing and illegally parked vehicle and would be forwarding the photo to the police minister.

To cut a long story short, the camera vehicle was removed from the footpath and all breaches it recorded that day were deleted.

I never thought of that. I have pics of a dodgy setup site, will post them off along with the issue from the other day showing evidence of the cops lies and see what goes on. Seems the guidelines for site setup are not being followed.