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Old 19-12-2011, 02:52 PM   #1
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So last night as I was driving home from a call in from work I decided to change lanes because the person in front of me was going 5 under. Without thinking about it I did so in an intersection and the camera which was there flashed. I looked at my speedo and was doing 65 in a 70 zone, and then looked behind me and saw another car go through so I'm 90% sure it wasn't a red. Has anyone ever been booked for changing lanes in an intersection? I called my cop mate and he says it is illegal technically, but that I'd be very unlucky to be done by it. Very worried as I'm a little low on points...

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Old 19-12-2011, 02:59 PM   #2
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I would say the person hi-beamed you for cutting around them
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Old 19-12-2011, 03:06 PM   #3
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Could a camera even catch you for doing that?

I can't stand idiots who enter the intersection in lane 1 and on the other side they are in lane 2 because they don't know what they are doing.
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Old 19-12-2011, 04:27 PM   #4
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Could a camera even catch you for doing that?
no, but paranoia is alive and well!
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Old 19-12-2011, 04:59 PM   #5
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Speed cameras are activated when one exceeds the speed limit but thats only applicable when you enter the cone of vision of the camera already doing excessive speed. If you are in the camera's vision already and then speed up, it won't be activated.
Given that you were already in the middle of the intersection before you decided to speed up to overtake, it'd be a very rare chance and you'd be very unlucky to cop a fine.
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Old 19-12-2011, 07:45 PM   #6
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no, but paranoia is alive and well!

Certainly is!!!

Its called a "red light camera" for a reason.... otherwise it would be called a "illegal lane changer camera".
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Old 19-12-2011, 07:56 PM   #7
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well yes paranoia is alive and well becasue we live in melbourne and thats how the powers at be make us feel most of the time ...

I doubt that you were flashed for that

Plan B. Put the car under your grandmothers name, now everytime you get a fine fill in her details and she will lose the points

I will add that a friend of mine does this and his grandmother doesnt even have a licence, as long as the fine is paid they dont check if you have a licence

How is that for revenue raising ....

And you thought the government were legid
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Old 19-12-2011, 10:23 PM   #8
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Certainly is!!!

Its called a "red light camera" for a reason.... otherwise it would be called a "illegal lane changer camera".
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Old 20-12-2011, 07:51 AM   #9
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Plan B. Put the car under your grandmothers name, now everytime you get a fine fill in her details and she will lose the points

I will add that a friend of mine does this and his grandmother doesnt even have a licence, as long as the fine is paid they dont check if you have a licence
sorry, i find that very difficult to believe.
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Old 20-12-2011, 08:08 AM   #10
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well yes paranoia is alive and well becasue we live in melbourne and thats how the powers at be make us feel most of the time ...

I doubt that you were flashed for that

Plan B. Put the car under your grandmothers name, now everytime you get a fine fill in her details and she will lose the points

I will add that a friend of mine does this and his grandmother doesnt even have a licence, as long as the fine is paid they dont check if you have a licence

How is that for revenue raising ....

And you thought the government were legid
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Old 20-12-2011, 11:41 AM   #11
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well yes paranoia is alive and well becasue we live in melbourne and thats how the powers at be make us feel most of the time ...

I doubt that you were flashed for that

Plan B. Put the car under your grandmothers name, now everytime you get a fine fill in her details and she will lose the points

I will add that a friend of mine does this and his grandmother doesnt even have a licence, as long as the fine is paid they dont check if you have a licence

How is that for revenue raising ....

And you thought the government were legid
what happens when they try to take points off her license? do they just treat it like out-of-state and just happy to get the money?
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Old 20-12-2011, 01:39 PM   #12
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You wouldn't have got flashed for it, but it is illegal to change lanes in an intersection, well it is here in SA.
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Old 20-12-2011, 01:42 PM   #13
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Could a camera even catch you for doing that?

I can't stand idiots who enter the intersection in lane 1 and on the other side they are in lane 2 because they don't know what they are doing.
I changed lane in an intersection. Hardly not knowing what I was doing. I just got frustrated with the car in front of me doing 5 under in the right hand lane

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I would say the person hi-beamed you for cutting around them
I never cut around them. I just changed lanes and was next to them. So there was definitely no high beaming. Was a definite double flash from the camera.

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no, but paranoia is alive and well!
as I said definitely a double flash from the camera. if i don't get a ticket great. but doesnt change the fact that the camera flashed me. I was just asking if anyone had been booked for changing lanes in an intersection
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Old 20-12-2011, 01:52 PM   #14
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as I said definitely a double flash from the camera. if i don't get a ticket great. but doesnt change the fact that the camera flashed me.
correction, the camera flashed. if you weren't speeding and the light was green, there's a very good chance it wasn't flashing you!

could've been someone speeding in the other direction or a myriad of other possibilities. i even think the camera's flash randomly operates from time to time as some sort of calibration.

it isn't illegal to travel a bit below the limit.

next time, have a bit more patience and wait 5 more seconds.
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Old 20-12-2011, 02:09 PM   #15
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correction, the camera flashed. if you weren't speeding and the light was green, there's a very good chance it wasn't flashing you!

could've been someone speeding in the other direction or a myriad of other possibilities. i even think the camera's flash randomly operates from time to time as some sort of calibration.

it isn't illegal to travel a bit below the limit.

next time, have a bit more patience and wait 5 more seconds.
true it may not have been flashing me. cant have been anyone else in my direction, but cant guarantee the other direction. though the camera was facing my direction not theirs

in a 70 zone no it isn't illegal. in an 80 zone it is illegal to sit in the right lane unless overtaking or congested. there is also just common courtesy which i was taught when first driving not to sit in the right lane

as for the have patience comment, i had been patient and sat behind him for quite a while. it was just poor choice of timing because i didnt know it was illegal
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Old 20-12-2011, 02:26 PM   #16
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in a 70 zone no it isn't illegal. in an 80 zone it is illegal to sit in the right lane unless overtaking or congested.
nope, changes to the road rules mean its now illegal to sit in the right hand lane in zones above 80km/h unless signposted.

it is still courteous to keep left though.
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Old 20-12-2011, 05:50 PM   #17
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Yes it hard to beleive but true ....

As long as the fine is paid thats all they care about

If my mate wasnt getting away with it for the last 15 years i wouldnt have mentioned it
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Old 20-12-2011, 06:37 PM   #18
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No, the camera wouldn't be able to catch you changing lanes in an intersection. These cameras only detect speeding and entering an intersection once a light has turned red. That said, why change lanes in an intersection? Was there any reason for why you couldn't wait until you had exited the intersection? It's things like this which turn me from a normal human being into a road raging maniac.
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Old 21-12-2011, 10:17 AM   #19
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No, the camera wouldn't be able to catch you changing lanes in an intersection. These cameras only detect speeding and entering an intersection once a light has turned red. That said, why change lanes in an intersection? Was there any reason for why you couldn't wait until you had exited the intersection? It's things like this which turn me from a normal human being into a road raging maniac.
then you have a very short temper. the next car didn't go through for about 3 seconds, so was about 100m behind at least. how would me changing in an intersection affect him or anyone else at all? if the intersection was busy i wouldnt have.
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Old 21-12-2011, 11:40 AM   #20
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The way I understand our WA cameras/red light cams is they take video for about 6 second either side of the red light change. That way if there is an accident they can review the video. Good for checking whether a car has cut off a truck etc etc.
Definately cant snap you for changing lanes a bit late
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Old 21-12-2011, 12:54 PM   #21
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The way I understand our WA cameras/red light cams is they take video for about 6 second either side of the red light change. That way if there is an accident they can review the video. Good for checking whether a car has cut off a truck etc etc.
Definately cant snap you for changing lanes a bit late
video is a good way to do it. i know they have similar at the airport in melbourne (got my dad ). would prefer that to the current cameras
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