Quickest Bolt on XR8

[parawolf]

Originally Posted by dynosteve

gerry one of my customers has so far managed a best of 12.0 @ 124mph un-opened in a pursuit ute, however we're hoping to run a low 11 on wendesday night at willowbank

What engine management was used? Edit? Unichip?

[Quadcams]

Originally Posted by dynosteve

gerry one of my customers has so far managed a best of 12.0 @ 124mph un-opened in a pursuit ute, however we're hoping to run a low 11 on wendesday night at willowbank

Can you highlight the mods please, mph is showing a good sign of a hairdryer.

[ALS008]

Originally Posted by Lowride260

Can you highlight the mods please, mph is showing a good sign of a hairdryer.

Yep this could be likely - forced induction

[sutty]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

How could an unopened Boss run 124mph in a ute?

Sorry. Not possible would be the general consensus.

I think I might know the ute in question. Blood Orange and with one of Steve's superchargers. The last time I saw it out at Willowbank (a couple of months back now) we both ran 12.2 but his 60 footers were woeful - 2.4 from memory. I was talking to the owner and he was having problems with the auto going into limp mode. He definately had the MPH - just needed to get the launch sorted.

[sutty]

Originally Posted by parawolf

What engine management was used? Edit? Unichip?

If it is indeed the ute mentioned above, he had the RDP piggyback.

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by ALS008

hhhmmmm i seem to think the MPH is quite high for an unopened motor, being a 260 or a 290. The MPH is an indication of outright HP.

FPVGT (Alex) 112 mph and Rods 110 mph is the best i have seen from unopened Boss powered cars...

[ratter]

Originally Posted by sutty

If it is indeed the ute mentioned above, he had the RDP piggyback.

If it used the edit, they could overcome the limp home problem

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by ratter

If it used the edit, they could overcome the limp home problem

This has only been nutted out in the last few weeks..there car was run 2 to 3 months back...
Speaking to Steve, RDP are going to use an edit very soon...
Ratter you had the same problems few months back with a hi-stall all fixed now?

[ratter]

I realise the edit function has just been sorted out, just wanted to give my 2c worth

[jabba]

Originally Posted by parawolf

What engine management was used? Edit? Unichip?

Steve uses his own RDP interceptor chip. I believe it retails for $1595 fitted and tuned.

[Gauntster]

Can some one please give me the run down on what is the true definition of "unopened" is?
I am under the impression that this means a vehicle that has external bolt ons and or some sort of editing of the factory ecu, not non factory diff gears, tranny gears, etc and definately not an internally modified engine??
It would be great if some one could point out to me the boundries of an "unopened" vehicle.
Thanks. :

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by Gauntster

Can some one please give me the run down on what is the true definition of "unopened" is?
I am under the impression that this means a vehicle that has external bolt ons and or some sort of editing of the factory ecu, not non factory diff gears, tranny gears, etc and definately not an internally modified engine??
It would be great if some one could point out to me the boundries of an "unopened" vehicle.
Thanks. :

I think it's engine only when we talk about it being unopened.

[Gauntster]

Its just my opinion, but i consider an "unopened" vehicle to be one that retains the factory internal workings, drive train and engine, etc, excluding the ecu.
A vehicle should run true bolt ons cai, exhaust, tb, etc, etc other wise, where does the classification of "unopened" end? Just have a look at the poll at the top of this thread to see what i am talking about.
What do you people think? :

[Quadcams]

Originally Posted by Gauntster

Its just my opinion, but i consider an "unopened" vehicle to be one that retains the factory internal workings, drive train and engine, etc, excluding the ecu.
A vehicle should run true bolt ons cai, exhaust, tb, etc, etc other wise, where does the classification of "unopened" end? Just have a look at the poll at the top of this thread to see what i am talking about.
What do you people think? :

well in that case go chris ALL FACTORY INTERNALS 12.39@110 read and weep LS1 boys!!!!!! : Strip a Boss bare like the LS1's have done love to see the results oh and +100odd kgs to gotta love that.

[ratter]

I beleive "unopened" is a term just describing the internals of the engine, nothing to do with what convertor what diff etc.

[Gauntster]

Originally Posted by Lowride260

well in that case go chris ALL FACTORY INTERNALS 12.39@110 read and weep LS1 boys!!!!!! : Strip a Boss bare like the LS1's have done love to see the results oh and +100odd kgs to gotta love that.

Thats some stomping numbers there, dead set flying! :sm_drool:
Yeah smash those poxy ls1 nancy boys!! :
I would like to see the numbers a boss produced striped down and tricked up, would be more than interesting!! :

[Chris]

You shall see it soon bro.

[EF302]

Originally Posted by OLS108

You a HEAD , i only came on here to ask a question and i was having a Joke with a few of the First Posters and you ahve to come on and act like , :jab:

why the h#ll is a holden fan a member of ff's.
is this a common accurence. do ff members join the holden forums

[Quadcams]

Originally Posted by fordboy

why the h#ll is a holden fan a member of ff's.
is this a common accurence. do ff members join the holden forums

Yeh I'm a member of ls1.com and so is alot of other FF members, keep your friends close and keep your opposition even closer. _2:

[galaxy xr8]

I'm a member on LS1.com, there's nothing wrong with keeping relation's,, it's all good.

[ratter]

I'm a member of the LS1 forums also

Guess I'm just narrow minded to think that 1 type of car is better because it wears a paticular badge.

[rodderz]

Originally Posted by fordboy

why the h#ll is a holden fan a member of ff's.
is this a common accurence. do ff members join the holden forums

Because like most people here they are car ENTHUSIASTS

They are more than welcome, and abide by the same rules that the rest of here do. Unlike some who's eyes are only open to one brand most like to hear what the other camp is up to now and then. After all, they are only cars and it should be respectful to not shoot down everyone elses opinion if they like a different brand from someone else.

Sure, this is a ford forum, and 95% of it is Ford. A lot of members from both this forum and other LS1/XR6 Tubo/Ute forums are members of all and like to see whats happening on both sides of the fence

[HEMI POWER]

Originally Posted by rodderz

Because like most people here they are car ENTHUSIASTS

They are more than welcome, and abide by the same rules that the rest of here do. Unlike some who's eyes are only open to one brand most like to hear what the other camp is up to now and then. After all, they are only cars and it should be respectful to not shoot down everyone elses opinion if they like a different brand from someone else.

Sure, this is a ford forum, and 95% of it is Ford. A lot of members from both this forum and other LS1/XR6 Tubo/Ute forums are members of all and like to see whats happening on both sides of the fence

I reckon they come on here to get some real satisfaction.

[EF302]

Originally Posted by rodderz

Because like most people here they are car ENTHUSIASTS
= Unlike some who's eyes are only open to one brand most like to hear what the other camp is up to now and then. After all, they are only cars and it should be respectful to not shoot down everyone elses opinion if they like a different brand from someone else.

settle, just a Q. It just annoys me when they get on here and say that the ls1 is soooo much better. i wouldnt say that on holden forum for that reason.

[Gauntster]

I reckon everybody should just SMOKE IT UP :evilsasmo.....on the strip that is!!

[Quadcams]

Originally Posted by Gauntster

I reckon everybody should just SMOKE IT UP :evilsasmo.....on the strip that is!!

Good call Gaunster!

[jmc-007]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

Begging your pardon but unopened Boss' don't just slip under the radar. That's substantially faster (mph) than the unopened record, apparently owned by GM Motorsport at 119mph, according to Chris on this forum... You don't just magically generate that kind of mph out of the blue... not when you have a car that starts off weighing 1900kgs from the factory.

With all due respect to dynosteve, reputations mean nothing to me in the tuning industry. I've heard so much BS from the LS1 camp... people knowingly lie and their mates back them up... not that that is the case here!

yes thats true what your saying but on both sides you see. people with sigs saying ''fastest unopened blah blah with boltons" and silly things like that.

When the time slips are shown then you know thats not bull.

Also another thing is not just boltons but tunning as well.

A road car thats running a tune that is close to pinging or running race fuel is in the same boat as well.

Not to mention the commodores are not as light as people think. Holden weigh the cars dry weight without fluids. !!!

[ratter]

Originally Posted by jmc-007

. Holden weigh the cars dry weight without fluids. !!!

Most car and motor bike manufactures always advertise "dry figures" and also crank horsepower/ kilowatts rather than rear wheel figures

[highlander_69r]

owning a holden myself and a member of ls1 , so what most of my mates own ba xr8/turbos and i like the ba its much nicer then any of the fords since the gtho , i like reading about the developemet of the boss and xr8 but how much difference will there be between the 260 and the 290kw eng ? keep up the good work no matter what happens there is always people to question the validity !