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26-04-2012, 04:15 AM | #1 | ||
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http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/segmen...ew/index.shtml
Again Mulally does not mention the 'Falcon'... but Jay does right at the last moment. Don't get too excited. He mentioned his mother owned it. Jay is a Ford man.
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26-04-2012, 07:32 AM | #2 | ||
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much respect for Alan. He turned around Ford Motor Company, not with new ideas but integrating all the business units to achieve a common goal.
I do like the idea of One Ford and would be keen to get more of the vehicles available overseas here.
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26-04-2012, 11:07 AM | #3 | ||
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I dunno about Alan Mulally. Obviously hugely talented and has done wonders for Ford as a company. But I think he's making Ford more like another Toyota. He's not a car guy. He knows how to make a company profitable, but its the culture under his direction that make decisions like no RWD for Lincoln for example - decisions that improve the bottom line but do little to attract the loyal enthusiasts.
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26-04-2012, 11:21 AM | #4 | |||
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Those loyal enthusiats, the ones that clamour for RWD, are now Baby Boomers in the twilight of their lives. Sales to that demographic are beginning to dimish as they age and stop driving. Alan Mulally's 'One Ford' is looking to the future and targeting the 'global' enthusiast with cars like the Focus ST - that's where the enthusiast market lies now, though they are looking at making the Mustang more appealing to a global audience for the next update (2015?). Having said that, I can still see the need for a niche RWD car in the luxury (Lincoln) end of the market.
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26-04-2012, 12:05 PM | #5 | |||
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Good points. I was just using RWD as one example - a good one though IMO. No doubt the Focus ST and Mustang are good examples of exciting cars from Ford, but I'm just worried the list is dwindling in the pursuit of "one Ford" |
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26-04-2012, 10:33 PM | #7 | |||
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If they become hugely profitable, they can pursue indulgences like more performance cars and more luxurious cars.
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26-04-2012, 10:41 PM | #8 | |||
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Some cars only need to go from A - B (Toyota..) but he hasn't killed the cool car names, under him they have massivly improved. Great interview with the man that saved the Brand we are all here to support, lets hope his plans for Australia are just as good for the workers, designers and the auto industry as they have been in the states. |
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26-04-2012, 10:57 PM | #9 | |||
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If I were building one ford I'd try to design cars that you could pull apart easily and attach sports and technology stuff. I'd even design the interior to be able to be changed easily and like an mobile phone ap, customers could change and upgrade it after a year or add more tech stuff easily and on their own. So car geeks can design sensors that keep you in your lane and you just buy it like a computer game from ford. Just plug it in or add it as an option in the command centre. Old folk like us can buy safety stuff and the kids can buy a head up display that projects lady gaga or idol when they are parked and waiting for a friend |
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26-04-2012, 11:02 PM | #10 | |||
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one Ford, one model, one colour.
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27-04-2012, 12:18 AM | #11 | |||
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And maybe they'll invest in a new RWD sedan chassis. It all depends on what China wants.
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27-04-2012, 08:21 PM | #12 | ||
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credit where credit is due, he has lead a team of people which have turned around the company. BUT if there is one tip I can offer Alan, ditch the red vest, no one is loving that.
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28-04-2012, 12:16 AM | #14 | |||
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Not so good news for the quarter, though:
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28-04-2012, 03:27 PM | #15 | |||
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28-04-2012, 03:32 PM | #16 | |||
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28-04-2012, 03:32 PM | #17 | ||
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spew I thought jay was going to ask allan about the australian falcon.
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29-04-2012, 09:52 PM | #18 | |||
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And whats this about the Mondeo's styling, you are the first person I have heard who has said its a backwards step on the previous one, I think you're on your own there buddy with that opinion. I have no doubt Ford will continue making cars that are great drivers cars, not whitegoods, because they know it does not cost any extra to make a car handle and steer really well than what it does to make a car drive poorly. And its only going to win them sales. Has anyone ever heard of someone saying they won't buy a certain car because it feels too sporty to drive. |
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01-05-2012, 05:19 PM | #19 | ||||
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01-05-2012, 05:46 PM | #20 | |||
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I heard Alan Mulally talk about the future of Ford and Ford Australia. His done a great job. But pure and simple he is a business man not a car enthusiast/ |
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01-05-2012, 07:08 PM | #21 | |||
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And this was my point. If your in his job, and you only have one of those traits - you better hope its the first one. Ford needs a sound businessman at the helm and they have that in Alan Mulally. But a truly great auto industry leader should have a bit of enthusiast in them as well. Cars are unique products that generate enthusiastic fans like few others - ignore that whole aspect of the business at your peril. Even Toyota are trying to appeal to the enthusiast buyer now with their new RWD coupe. One Ford will see every Ford car worldwide move closer and closer to what the US market dictates. Mulally might have saved the company, but I cant say I'm at all excited with what the future looks like at Ford... (Unless the next gen Mustang is a cracker, and a world car, and comes to Australia. That would placate me nicely) |
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01-05-2012, 07:10 PM | #22 | ||
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Is there really a need to make a deal about every artical with a Ford employee, not mentioning the falcon...?
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01-05-2012, 08:07 PM | #23 | |||
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And you'd have to imagine he'd be an absolute car nut being from such a family. It would be interesting just how much influence they would all have in terms of the direction their products take. At the end of the day Mullaly is a business man who's job it is to make money, i'm sure the car guys have more an an imfluence in terms of product than what he has, cause at the end of the day I doubt wether he would be the one saying "this is what our cars should be". I'd think that would be left to the senior product planners who's job it is to know what they want their cars to be. |
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01-05-2012, 10:10 PM | #24 | ||
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I recently ordered this book:
http://www.amazon.com/American-Icon-...5874151&sr=1-1 Should be an interesting read. I love how people vilify the guy who has made Ford solvent again.
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01-05-2012, 10:59 PM | #25 | |||
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That would be an interesting read, I might get a copy myself. Who has been vilifying Mulally though? |
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01-05-2012, 11:13 PM | #26 | |||
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Bill Ford... if he's anything like his great great grandfather (or whatever Henry is to him) he'd be fanatically pragmatic business man who sees cars merely as machines for basic transportation. I'm sure thats not the case, but its all speculation either way. Your right though in what your saying about development - its not like Al is out there at the testing ground honing damper rates on a new Mondeo. And as you said earlier, modern safety and efficiency standards are the main culprit for the decline in driving dynamics. But I think its inevitble that One Ford will result in less-interesing, more profitable cars, generally speaking. |
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01-05-2012, 11:27 PM | #27 | ||
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The WS Fiesta has electric power steering and its probably the best handling car I've ever driven, you slightly move that wheel and the car will respond dead on accurate to where you want it to go. There is still feedback through the wheel as well.
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So, great grandfather. (And William Clay Ford Sr. is still with us!)
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02-05-2012, 08:25 PM | #29 | |||
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And I think Henry Ford had a bit more performance in his veins than what people give him credit for, he got the start up cash to start Ford Motor Co by winning a race in his own designed and built racer. He saw that making racing cars and going racing would show potential investors his engineering skills. Something the company continued to do for the next century. |
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02-05-2012, 08:37 PM | #30 | |||
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351 posts WOW very Australian |
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