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26-04-2012, 02:55 PM | #1 | ||
Escort MkII 1977 2.0L
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Ok well the Mk2 Esky 4spd has developed a difficult gear change. There is resistance when pushing the lever into most gears and sometimes even a tooth-againt-tooth grinding sound which I can also feel through the stick.
I adjusted the clutch cable so it's not that. I'm thinking maybe clutch springs or else gearbox synchro rings. Opinions?? Anybody had similar? |
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26-04-2012, 09:06 PM | #2 | ||
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If all foward gears have recently gone this way, I would suggest clutch. Syncros would normally go individually, ie. 2 many extra quick down changes from 3 to 2 & releasing the clutch early, or to many quick up changes usually from 2 to 3 again relasing the clutch early. I've done both a few times. enjoy
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26-04-2012, 09:21 PM | #3 | ||
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This can happen when the clutch is oil contaminated.
Fix oil leaks and fit new clutch. |
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27-04-2012, 08:41 AM | #4 | ||
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Another vote for clutch related issue, few most common causes I've come across are;
1. Clutch lever cracked - common(ish) fault, arm will usually crack at the 'kink' between throw out bearing and cable slot. Feels like an under adjusted clutch cable. Pull back the dust boot and shine a light along the clutch lever while yo get a friend/spouse/sibling/flatmate/significant other/passer by/etc to depress the clutch pedal - will be very easy to see the arm flex if this is the issue, 2. If its a 2 litre - Pivot bolt & block adrift - pivot bolt comes loose/breaks and falls out, small steel lever point block falls out, can not adjust the cable enough to accomodate the change in leverage point, 3. Pressure plate diaphram partially collapsed - does not fully realease, but his usally results in some slipping under load, and 4. Driven plate failing - seen damper springs and friction material dislodge and cause this issue, again this usually have acompanying noise and/or slippage under load |
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27-04-2012, 12:09 PM | #5 | ||
Rally Nut
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my vote is for the clutch lever - very, very common for them to crack
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27-04-2012, 12:41 PM | #6 | ||
Escort MkII 1977 2.0L
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Location: Adelaide
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Thanks for the comments everyone and the photos JimStone.
There is an oil leak coming out through the bottom of the bellhousing (from engine) but I would expect the clutch to slip if there was oil contamination. There is no slip and pedal action feels good (resistance for first 1/3 pedal travel, easy there after). Looks like I'll have to jack it up again and have another look on the weekend. |
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06-05-2012, 12:01 AM | #7 | ||
Escort MkII 1977 2.0L
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So I got the Esky up on stands and had a look at the clutch fork. There appears to be a crack but I don't see any flexing. Perhaps the fork has bent. Not happy days :(
I presume that any repairs will require the gearbox and bell-housing to be removed. No pit or engine lifter will make that challening...ahh the joys of classics. |
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06-05-2012, 08:08 AM | #8 | ||
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Yep, time to pull the gearbox. Can either repair old lever (make sure you run some additional reinforcing, dont just weld up the cracks) or source a new unit readily out of UK.
If the budget will stretch that far I would be tempted to replace the clutch while the gearbox is out - 'cheap' insurance for not having to pull te gear box again when the clutch dies about a week aftewr putting it all together again .... Last edited by JimStone; 06-05-2012 at 08:14 AM. |
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06-05-2012, 09:54 PM | #9 | ||
Escort MkII 1977 2.0L
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Any way of getting to the clutch without removing the engine...perhaps from underneath. Space seems to be an issue...not much of it to manoeuvre around the gearbox.
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06-05-2012, 10:37 PM | #10 | ||
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I have changed boxes from underneath. Not easy but do-able.
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07-05-2012, 06:55 AM | #11 | ||
Rally Nut
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Location: Melbourne
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with a standard tunnel to get the box out you will need to drop the motor down - best wasy is to get longer cross member bolts to hold it all in line, undo the steering column and drop the motor down a couple of inches - you can be lucky & undo the motor mounts from the block as well....
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