Styling of E3 and FG

[ZH For Me]

Despite the fact that I am absolutely disguested with the E3 styling, there's something about that Maloo that I actually like. Must be the colour.... Oh, no, wait, its because I don't have my glasses on and cannot see how awfully pukeful it looks.*

I personally think that the VX was, in my opinion, the most attractive HSV they made. Anything after that sort of looks a bit like a brick.*

I actually quite like the more sedate styling of the FPV's, but then I've never really been one to go overboard on the external appearance of any of my cars (The most radical I've ever gone is a Boss bonnet and a set of powder-coated Cheetah's on my Fairlane). Admittedly the HSV's, I feel, do have a better interior, but I couldn't wake up every morning and look out the window to see an E3 staring back at me. Then again, I don't have the disposible income to afford either an FG FPV nor an E3, so my opinions of that matter are rather moot.

I think FPV got it pretty well spot on with the FG, apart from a few small things that I would change. But lets face it, if they did a PERFECT car, then at least some of us would still change something, just to be different. Not saying that is at all a bad thing, but that's what stylising and individualising your car is all about. There isn't much that can't be changed, for a price...

* Based on opinion, not fact. Please don't eat me.

[cheap]

The poll question is very subjective and it is clear that the outcome is that most people will not like the E3 (something you would expect from a Ford supporters forum).

The E3 is a head turner something which unfortunately the GT is not. Some colours are much better than others.

The E3 is also a very good car to drive.

Having the most powerful engine is like being an ugly guy with a big *****, you want to fornicate but the girls just see that you're butt ugly.

The real issue is the bland styling that Ford/FPV have in their premier product line.

[Wretched]

I am not a fan of either the E3 or the FPV stable. The only decent looking out of the two ranges would be a F6-E in black.
The rest are over styled and pig ugly IMO.

HSV nailed it with E1 GTS and FPV with the Force 6 & 8 range.
I prefer subtlety over wings, stickers, gills and other cheap trinkets.

[FPV414]

Best looking car in the FPV range are the GT-E and F6-E. Everything else is let down by boring, underdone wheels and excessive ground clearance. BF-BF2 GT and F6 were probably the best looking FPV's.

The HSV's look much better, and each update shows they've put some effort in - unlike FPV.

[NickosBF2XRT]

whats the dfiff between e1 and e2 hsv's?

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by NickosEL

whats the dfiff between e1 and e2 hsv's?

Unless there are some subtle differences that I'm not aware of, the E2 and E3 body kits are much the same. The E1 was the pretty one.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Wretched

I am not a fan of either the E3 or the FPV stable. The only decent looking out of the two ranges would be a F6-E in black.
The rest are over styled and pig ugly IMO.

HSV nailed it with E1 GTS and FPV with the Force 6 & 8 range.
I prefer subtlety over wings, stickers, gills and other cheap trinkets.

Ill still stand by my idea of FPV going a more personalised route.

Why cant we just have a GT and F6, then option what seats, colour, spoilers etc you actually want out of a catalog. Most popular products these days have the ability to be customised to what the individual wants.

Your telling me that a GTE customer putting $70k down cant ask for a manual? Or that a GT owner might want the red leather and cant get it even though they are willing to pay?

These are not mass produced cars like some want to believe, the "effort" to do a process such as above is not difficult and IMO would enhance the FPV experience without really adding cost.

"Oh but what about resale" cry the fans, well its already rat poo so how much worse can it get?

If dealers want to order certain spec then do so, there will be some who couldnt be bother optioning and perhaps have one or two "packs" would work.

But for those with the money, who are buying new, they should be able to stamp their own touch on the car.

I think thats one of the more interesting things about older GT's, whats the ID tag say? Whats deleted etc...it actually makes it interesting and the bonus for FPV is that if a customer does option more then they are spending more initially, get the car they want, and maybe, just maybe help the resale later on.

Then FPV can stop pretending the GS is theirs and concentrate on two cars.

[4.0i OHC]

Well the E3 looks overstyled to the point of ridiculousness. It gives those ricer boys a run for their money. The FG FPVs are not perfect, but they're the cleanest looking in the FG range, and their styling imperfections (such as the tail lights, sloping rear end and C pillar) are shared by the rest of the range. Not to mention the FG's better handling and steering that isn't comatose, and its manic turbo six (sorry but I'm a straight six guy not a V8 guy). The choice is clear.
The F6 ute looks sublime IMO. The FG ute fixes all the styling (and rear suspension) sins of the FG sedan.

[4.0i OHC]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Then FPV can stop pretending the GS is theirs and concentrate on two cars.

Definitely agree here. The GS cheapens the FPV brand. Leave the brand whoring to HSV. Oh, and bring back the Pursuit.
Speaking of the FPV brand, it seems that the FPV name just doesn't have the cachet that the HSV name carries. Because of this, I recommend changing the name. Does anyone have any suggestions? I suggest Tickford

[superfly]

Originally Posted by Nikked

HSV Aced it around 2004-06

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^^ They both look dingo ugly!

The VE was better looking in every angle.

[Rodge]

HSV saved a fortune by outsourcing the design of the E3 to the local primary school .

OTOH there's very little to differentiate the F6E and GT-E from a regular G6ET so FPV saved a fortune there too. Where's the happy medium, oh yeah SC GT-P, no bias here whatsoever

[chrisfpv]

Originally Posted by NickosEL

whats the dfiff between e1 and e2 hsv's?

This is an E1 HSV:



This is an E2 HSV:



This is an E3 HSV:

[andrich]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Ill still stand by my idea of FPV going a more personalised route.

Why cant we just have a GT and F6, then option what seats, colour, spoilers etc you actually want out of a catalog. Most popular products these days have the ability to be customised to what the individual wants.

Your telling me that a GTE customer putting $70k down cant ask for a manual? Or that a GT owner might want the red leather and cant get it even though they are willing to pay?

These are not mass produced cars like some want to believe, the "effort" to do a process such as above is not difficult and IMO would enhance the FPV experience without really adding cost.

"Oh but what about resale" cry the fans, well its already rat poo so how much worse can it get?

If dealers want to order certain spec then do so, there will be some who couldnt be bother optioning and perhaps have one or two "packs" would work.

But for those with the money, who are buying new, they should be able to stamp their own touch on the car.

I think thats one of the more interesting things about older GT's, whats the ID tag say? Whats deleted etc...it actually makes it interesting and the bonus for FPV is that if a customer does option more then they are spending more initially, get the car they want, and maybe, just maybe help the resale later on.

Then FPV can stop pretending the GS is theirs and concentrate on two cars.

Totally agree mate, well said.

[Venomous1]

email FPV. Each bit helps