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Old 23-07-2012, 10:11 PM   #1
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Thumbs down 13 die in f250 ute filled with 23 people!!

23 people crammed into 1 ute does sound a bit excessive!

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/23/us...eck/index.html

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Old 23-07-2012, 10:20 PM   #2
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today I had about a tonne of wood in the back of my ute, and that makes the front feel very light and swervy, as well as not being able to brake well as it doesnt put the weight over the front wheels. 23 people must weigh near 1.5 to 2 tonnes so a little swerve could easily be overcorrected and end in disaster.
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Old 23-07-2012, 10:34 PM   #3
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Wow thats crazy, rip.
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The F250 isn't a small car, but it's not a freakin' bus!
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Overloaded utes don`t handle real well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWUAEIllZtE
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Old 24-07-2012, 08:56 AM   #6
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Just look at the comments on the CNN article?....
Americans sure have opinions.......
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Old 24-07-2012, 09:28 AM   #7
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AU doesn't have borders like we do (we have areas of legal crossings but the rest of the border is more like an imaginary line in the desert between our side and the other side), your illegal immigrants mostly get there by boat or overstay their VISAs right? We have some boat people too, but basically our illegals make their mad dash across borders to get to our side. Or use underground tunnels that open up into warehouses near the border, it's ridiculous. And it's a business for some.

Illegal immigration is a hot and controversial topic here. Our border patrol is taxed and stretched thin, there's no human way possible to protect our borders that stretch across many states, not to mention the terrain there.

Whenever I'm in Los Angeles (Southern Cal) I noticed that English isn't the first language there. It's been like that for awhile now. Everywhere I went I heard Spanish, from Disneyland to grocery stores to specialty shops. Illegal immigrants say they have rights and expect government help, education and medical.

*I feel sorry for those who died..... but there are legal ways of coming into the US.

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Old 24-07-2012, 09:47 AM   #8
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Overloaded utes don`t handle real well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWUAEIllZtE
WOW!! How lucky were most of them!!

I have had my ute a bit overloaded before
(at least the weight is not where its meant to be!), with 10 railway sleepers hanging out the back by about a metre, leaving the front pretty weightless! And you really have to tip toe along! I could imagine if I had to swerve for something at 100 I would be rolling guaranteed!
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Its incredible the lengths people go to for transportation. Im posting this to highlight the risks taken by some people, not as a joke.



Yes thats NINE people!!
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^^^^^^^^^ I counted 8.....until I seen the little feller in the bucket.....all I got to say is............ "good god"
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Yeah I highly suspect the baby in the bucket is photoshopped but I think the 8 on the bike are real.
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went to india a fair while ago......the commuter trains there are something else.......hundreds cram in, on and around

crazy the risks these people take, but then I guess there's no alternative

looking close I reckon you're right about bub's .....but hell 8 is enough
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Its sad, but with that many in one vehicle how can it end well??
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The most I ever personally saw on a bike was 6 in Pakistan... by the time the camera was ready I couldn't get the shot... 4 is the norm in a lot of Asia as the family can't afford a car.

I have seen a lot of bad accidents while in Africa and Asia... they don't really go out of their way to cover the scene either. After seeing the way they overload ANY mode of transport any type of accident will be bad...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsrbSoO01D4

I don't know... if I were trying to get into a country under the radar it would be in a van, not piled 4 deep and 3 high on the back of an open ute...
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Back in 1983 we were despatched to a vehicle accident - single vehicle rollover just outside of Jabiru (Kakadu National Park). When we turned up there were two in the front and three in the back of the vehicle (five injured). Whilst we were treating those five, a further twelve (12) walked / hobbled /were carried out of the surrounding bushes. Fifteen (15) adults and two (2) children in a Troop Carrier.

A few had the odd broken bone, cuts and grazes but that was it. It took us two trips back to the health centre with the Police using the cage to also help carry the injured. The vehicle simply fell over going around a 90' corner at about 25 kmph.
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The most I ever personally saw on a bike was 6 in Pakistan... by the time the camera was ready I couldn't get the shot... 4 is the norm in a lot of Asia as the family can't afford a car.

I have seen a lot of bad accidents while in Africa and Asia... they don't really go out of their way to cover the scene either. After seeing the way they overload ANY mode of transport any type of accident will be bad...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsrbSoO01D4

I don't know... if I were trying to get into a country under the radar it would be in a van, not piled 4 deep and 3 high on the back of an open ute...
Exactly, that's only way too obvious. There's been news about those U-haul trucks (huge trucks people can hire for transport), or shipping containers packed full of people being found in the desert somewhere. No ventilation, water, food, nothing. Just packed in like sardines and abandoned in the heat. When opened up guess what authorities found? Yup you guessed it. Heaps of casualties or near death illegal immigrants; men, women and children. They paid for their pass knowing they might not make it yet it's amazing how many people continue to pay for that chance they might make it. I guess compared to their life, anything is worth a try.
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Old 25-07-2012, 06:54 PM   #19
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That's a good idea... Load up 23 people in a vehicle that's supposed to carry no more than 5 (in this case 3). What could possibly go wrong???


Reminds me of a video of Bathurst I saw on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhvCyIEDRSA
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How stoooooooopid. Wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that ending. (the link above: Hilux Rollover full of Drunks vid)
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Headline says 14 dead now.....
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Yes thats NINE people!!
except the baby in the bucket is photoshopped (that or he's sticking through the lid). still, pretty crazy. beats walking.
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Yeah I highly suspect the baby in the bucket is photoshopped but I think the 8 on the bike are real.
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Headline says 14 dead now.....
How sad. I hope this deters someone from doing the same thing because it happens way too often.

One can only hope.
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Its incredible the lengths people go to for transportation. Im posting this to highlight the risks taken by some people, not as a joke.

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Yes thats NINE people!!
baby is only 1 wearing a helmet.........
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today I had about a tonne of wood in the back of my ute, and that makes the front feel very light and swervy, as well as not being able to brake well as it doesnt put the weight over the front wheels. 23 people must weigh near 1.5 to 2 tonnes so a little swerve could easily be overcorrected and end in disaster.
23 american people probly closer to 3 ton
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Its incredible the lengths people go to for transportation. Im posting this to highlight the risks taken by some people, not as a joke.

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Yes thats NINE people!!
There is another baby on the other side and another bun in the oven.
We will be like that one day hear in Australia with PM gillard at the wheel.
It beats walking.
I picked up a bucket the other day and the handle snapped clean off.
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