Lest We Forget

[fordomatic]

While you are in bed under your own roof about to sleep tonight spare a thought for the 5 true Australian Heroes we lost today in Afghanistan.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them.
Lest We Forget.

[Road_Warrior]

They went with songs to the battle, they were young.

Straight of limb, true of eyes, steady and aglow.

They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,

They fell with their faces to the foe.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:

Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning,

We will remember them.

Lest we forget.

[atec77]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

While you are in bed under your own roof about to sleep tonight spare a thought for the 5 true Australian Heroes we lost today in Afghanistan.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them.
Lest We Forget.

Agrred , now time to leave before more bad things happen in a "police" action that failed

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by atec77

Agrred , now time to leave before more bad things happen in a "police" action that failed

No point pulling out at this point unless it looks like the mission will fail.

While there is no point spending more lives for a lost cause, if it looks like it will succeed, we are past the point of no return!!

Lest We Forget!

[XBROO]

This is a very sad thing too happen, but what's even sader. Is that this war has been going on for so long, that you forget we are even at war. Untill something like this happens.

Lest We Forget

[Madaya]

Errhm, didn't President Bush say something along the lines of 'Mission Accomplished', several years ago, and a true hero called out 'GERONIMO', Then why are we still there?
I would love to help 'The Afghan' people, I want them to share the joy and expectant hope, that we in the 'west' invest in and look forward to. But, at the end of the day, the people on the ground have to accept the 'input'.

Aussie Diggers die.

This is a planned operation. Either between him and his fellow troopers, he and his father or family, or he and his "mates". And I put "mates" in inverted commas, as I know that my mates would not carry out such a task.
Errrm, sorry, but us Westerners sorted that stuff out when, ahh, it was so long ago, we've forgot.

So some one comes along with a Holy Book, the Koran. Yeah, I have read some. The early bits are quite inspiring, loving the Jew (brothers through Abraham), each to their own and etc. But I get concerned with the later stuff, you know, the death to the unbeliever type of stuff.

Bring the boys and girls home. With the money saved, we can build a fence (and Aussies are good at fences, Rabbit Proof and Dingo Proof fences) around Afgahnistan central, hell, with the help of our allies, we can build a twenty foot high wall, topped with razor wire and swept with lasers and machineguns.

If you want to get out, recite the Apostles' Creed. Sorry to insert a bit of religion here, but it is a crux on which western civilisation is based. We are not talking money, or churches, but the fundamentalist Afghan fool is just as happy blowing himself up in a market place, as he is gunning down a bunch of Aussie Friends.

Build a wall, built from bricks, or bytes should help.

As and aside, for a while, Isreal was denuded by suicide bombers, (buses, half filled with Moslems). until they instigated a program that bulldozed the bombers family home, their friends home and any people that may have had the slightest connection to the bomber. Result - no more suicide bombings on Jewish territory. Easy fix.

Bring the boys and gals home, and spend the money saved on a 'fence'.

[2011G6E]

People forget what war is about...and when you come right down to it, that's people dying.

In this age of smart weapons and unmanned drones, we the public have sat back and thought that it was all "war at a distance", and a lot of people actually seem honestly shocked that soldiers still die occasionally in a war zone, as if they don't think that;s something that happens anymore.

In ten years in Afghanistan, we have lost 38 troops. But go back to World War One and in one 24 hour period at the Battle Of Fromelles, we had over 5500 Australian soldiers killed, injured, or taken captive. We have to keep things relative.

Nothing is served by packing up and going home as soon as someone dies in a war. The soldiers are there to do a job, and any time they interview them about what should be done, they say "stay the course, finish the job". They don't cry and run home with thier tail between their legs.

I'd really hate to see what would happen if the worst ever did happen at some time in the future an Australia was invaded by ground forces, say from some country to the north. As soon as Australian soldiers started dying, you can bet there would be calls for immediate surrender as it was becoming "too risky for the troops in that war zone" as some commentators are saying now about Afghanistan and Iraq...

[MNM96]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

People forget what war is about...and when you come right down to it, that's people dying.

We are not at war with Afghanistan!

To our fallen, Lest we forget.

[XBROO]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

People forget what war is about...and when you come right down to it, that's people dying.

In this age of smart weapons and unmanned drones, we the public have sat back and thought that it was all "war at a distance", and a lot of people actually seem honestly shocked that soldiers still die occasionally in a war zone, as if they don't think that;s something that happens anymore.

In ten years in Afghanistan, we have lost 38 troops. But go back to World War One and in one 24 hour period at the Battle Of Fromelles, we had over 5500 Australian soldiers killed, injured, or taken captive. We have to keep things relative.

Nothing is served by packing up and going home as soon as someone dies in a war. The soldiers are there to do a job, and any time they interview them about what should be done, they say "stay the course, finish the job". They don't cry and run home with thier tail between their legs.

I'd really hate to see what would happen if the worst ever did happen at some time in the future an Australia was invaded by ground forces, say from some country to the north. As soon as Australian soldiers started dying, you can bet there would be calls for immediate surrender as it was becoming "too risky for the troops in that war zone" as some commentators are saying now about Afghanistan and Iraq...

Some good points you have made there. I think the main reason people want to pull our troops out every time our soldiers fall is 'it's not our war why are we fighting it'. But we are an allied country and if our allied countries go to war then so do we. If we weren't part of an alliance then there would be nothing to stop a super power from taken us over.

[Bluepower]

You cannot buy the loyalty of an afghan.......you can only rent it.

Thankyou for keeping us safe, gone but never forgotten.

[poppa smurf]

way past time we pulled our boys out I think......these people have been fighting for thousands of years...they are experts

lets just let them do what they do best and leave them alone

enough of our finest have been sacrificed at the alter of futility...

[atec77]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

No point pulling out at this point unless it looks like the mission will fail.

While there is no point spending more lives for a lost cause, if it looks like it will succeed, we are past the point of no return!!

Lest We Forget!

Bush said mission done ages ago , we need to remove the troops and let the usual state of decades of war continue because our little force is not able to achieve the objectives set far to long ago with out further waste of our young to no real end

[fordomatic]

I did not put this thread up so people can argue why or why not we should be there, so please dont make this political.
Soldiers chose to fight and we accept the risk of dying, thats fair enough, but it still doesnt take away the fact that 5 Heros were taken from us too soon.

To my mates that have passed i truely will never forget you,

Rest Ye, Oh Warrior
You'll battle no more
No longer to live
The horrors of war
Your duty was done
With honour and pride
Farewell Oh Brother
Until we march by your side.

[ThaFlash]

not to take anything away from our troops, for me the SAS are the super heroes of soldiers, hands down the best in the world with invincible spirit!

RIP Blane Diddams!

my friend!!!!