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25-09-2012, 10:58 AM | #1 | |||
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Interesting (in depth) comments from BHP about utes on minesites and some misconceptions about vehicle safety. Read on:
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25-09-2012, 11:04 AM | #2 | ||
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I've noticed that the newer 78 series V8 diesel Cruisers on mine sites, and the rental ones I've driven, have two airbags in the front now and no Jesus Handle on the passenger side dash.
Of course, it's still like stepping back to the seventies inside apart from the excellent new touch-screen double DIN Toyota stereo, but damn, you get an instant feeling of confidance that you could head directly west ignoring road maps and not stop driving for anything in your way until you reached Broome. The HiLuxes are nice, but if I had the moolah a 78 Series would be in the driveway. I'd agree with the idea of an intelligent ignition key setup...I've been in utes with guys on mine sites who drive like their hair is on fire...scares the hell out of you when you see the size of the other things sharing the road with you... Anyone else remember the "Valet key" that a Corvette came out with? I think if was the early nineties versions with the then-new EFI all alloy small block in it. The way it worked was that there was a second key (that you obviously took with you) that when into a "second ignition lock" under a section of the center console. You then took the key with you. This switch did something to the EFI computer, limiting the revs, top speed, and adjusting the engine so it only put out about half the normal horsepower...the standard joke at the time was "Imagine finally loaning your begging kid the Corvette for the night, and then letting the little bugger find out you'd turned the valet switch..." |
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25-09-2012, 11:50 AM | #3 | ||
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Yeah I remember the Valet Key for the Corvette. Was in the ZR1 I think. Ford now does a similar thing for the Mustang with the "track key" but it's use is different I think.
Personally I'm a fan of the 76 series 4 door wagons. Gotta think of the family too you know ;)
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25-09-2012, 06:48 PM | #4 | ||
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My Uncle has a new 78 series and its a bucket of ****. He prefers my BT-50. Hes trying to sell the Toyota, and probably will easily enough!
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25-09-2012, 06:50 PM | #5 | ||
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Ranger is better
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25-09-2012, 08:59 PM | #6 | |||
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25-09-2012, 09:00 PM | #7 | ||
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have a 2012 plate Mazda BT50 as my work ute.....5 star.
The levels some HSE people are going with vehicle safety in oil, gas and mining industries is absolutely ridiculous. All with very little research. With Origin Energy I am required to have a mine dune flag pole mounted on the bull-bar. This is for an area that operates on open plains and farming land. Not in sand dunes at Moomba like Santos encounter or at an open cut mine with overburden! Just some crazy crazy rules.... Great to see BHP have actually done some research and realised they were potentially creating a risk.
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25-09-2012, 09:05 PM | #8 | |||
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25-09-2012, 09:29 PM | #9 | |||
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FORD’S INNOVATIVE MYKEY SYSTEM HELPS TEENS DRIVE SAFER, CONSERVE FUEL; GIVES PARENTS PEACE OF MIND •MyKey®, another innovation from the company that introduced SYNC®, allows parents to limit speed and audio volume to encourage teens to drive safer and improve fuel efficiency •Harris Interactive Survey shows that many parents would allow teens to drive more often if their vehicle was equipped with MyKey – helping young drivers build road safety experience •MyKey debuted as a standard feature on the 2010 Ford Focus and is now a no-cost feature on nearly all Ford and Lincoln models WASHINGTON, D.C., Jan. 26, 2011 – Ford Motor Company’s innovative MyKey technology is designed to help parents encourage their teenagers to drive safer and more fuel efficiently, and increase safety-belt use. Ford’s MyKey feature – which debuted as standard equipment on the 2010 Ford Focus and is now standard on nearly all Ford and Lincoln models – allows owners to program a key that can limit the vehicle’s top speed and audio volume. MyKey also encourages safety-belt use, provides earlier low-fuel warnings and can be programmed to sound chimes at 45, 55 and 65 mph. “Ford not only offers industry-leading crash protection and crash avoidance systems, we also are committed to developing new technologies such as MyKey that encourage safer driving behavior,” said Sue Cischke, Ford group vice president of Sustainability, Environment and Safety Engineering. “MyKey can help promote safer driving, particularly among teens, by encouraging safety belt use, limiting speed and reducing distractions.” MyKey is appealing to parents of teen drivers, including 75 percent who like the speed-limiting feature, 72 percent who like the more insistent safety-belt reminder, and 63 percent who like the audio limiting feature, according to a Harris Interactive Survey conducted for Ford. About 50 percent of those who would consider purchasing MyKey also said they would allow their children to use the family vehicle more often if it were equipped with the new technology. The added seat time can help teens build their driving skills in a more controlled setting, complementing graduated licensing laws that give young drivers more driving freedom as they get older. More than half of the parents surveyed worry that their teenagers are driving at unsafe speeds, talking on hand-held cell phones or texting while driving, or are otherwise driving distracted. More than a third of parents also are concerned that their teens do not always buckle their safety belts when driving. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), teens are more likely to take risks such as speeding – a contributing factor in 30 percent of all fatal crashes. Teens also are less likely to wear safety belts than older drivers. Teens surveyed by Harris said they are largely open to MyKey if it means they will have more freedom to drive. Initially, 67 percent of teens polled said they wouldn’t want MyKey features. However, if using MyKey would lead to greater driving privileges, only 36 percent would object to the technology. “We’ve upgraded an existing, proven technology – the SecuriLock® Passive Anti-Theft System – with some simple software upgrades to develop a new unique feature that we believe will resonate with customers,” said Graydon Reitz, director, Electrical and Electronic Systems Engineering, the same team that developed SYNC in partnership with Microsoft. “We also developed MyKey’s functions in such a way to quickly spread it across multiple vehicle lines, giving us the ability to go mass market in the spirit of other Ford innovations such as safety belts, stability control and SYNC.” Holding the key The MyKey system allows the parent to program any key through the vehicle message center, which updates the SecuriLock Passive Anti-Theft System. When the MyKey is inserted into the ignition, the system reads the transponder chip in the key and immediately identifies the MyKey code, which enables certain default driving modes, including: •Persistent Ford Belt-Minder® with audio mute. Ford’s Belt-Minder system typically provides a six-second reminder chime every minute for five minutes. With MyKey, the Belt-Minder chime continues at the regular interval and the audio system is muted until the safety belt is buckled. A message center display, “Buckle Up to Unmute Radio,” also appears on the instrument cluster •Earlier low-fuel warning. Rather than a warning at 50 miles to empty, MyKey provides a warning at 75 miles to empty •If MyKey is in the ignition, features such as park aid and BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with cross-traffic alert cannot be deactivated Additional MyKey features that can be programmed through the vehicle’s message center setup menu: •Limited top speed of 80 mph •Traction control system, that limits tire spin, cannot be deactivated •Limited audio volume to 44 percent of total volume •A speed alert chime at 45, 55 or 65 mph Using MyKey to teach teens to avoid speeding can provide an added benefit – improved fuel economy. Ford research shows that driving 55 mph instead of 65 mph consumes 15 percent less fuel, and mastering other eco-driving habits such as avoiding jackrabbit starts and excessive idling can help improve fuel economy by more than 50 percent. |
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25-09-2012, 10:46 PM | #10 | ||
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Interesting that I heard on the weekend that that a mine on FNQ is going to start trialling speed limited utes on the mining sites and not have them leave the site and instead have lease cars used for commuting back to town. It means they can expensively outfit the utes on the site and not have them rack up massive kms on the highway making them wear out too quick. Also the speed limiting of the utes is a major safety breakthrough....
The downside? They are purchasing around 40 diesel Volkswagen Passats sedans...blah. Buy some Aussie Falcons!! |
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25-09-2012, 11:05 PM | #11 | |||
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And wait till they experience the issues, VW have with their DSG transmissons, etc. Falcon sedans, would definitely be better.
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26-09-2012, 05:50 PM | #12 | ||
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because we do work for ARROW my new idiot boss just says yes all time even when we dont need to be mine spec because our contract under $20000, the amount of money we waisted on ivms for 6 cars and rops and so on is rediculous
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26-09-2012, 06:50 PM | #13 | ||
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Highway kms commuting to and from site would add negligible wear and tear to the vehicles that actually get used in the pits day in and day out. It would only be superintendents cars they'd be looking at replacing which see bugger all use on site anyway, better off leaving them in the office were they belong.
Not sure where you're headed with that statement, contract size would have very little to do with what safety requirements need to be met, if the vehicle goes on any mine site, it needs to meet that sites safety criteria, no ifs or buts. That's not to say that mining companies don't turn a blind eye to safety requirements when it suits them though. Will be interesting to see how these Rangers go in the long term, we've had two in our department for about 2 months now, one is off site with engine issues, possibly head gasket I heard, the other is off site with a bent tailshaft. |
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26-09-2012, 07:24 PM | #14 | ||
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On the subject of mining vehicles, does anybody know how Falcon Utes stand up to the punishment, compared to the Thai utes?(I know they wouldn't take them underground like 70 series)
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26-09-2012, 07:39 PM | #15 | |||
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26-09-2012, 09:33 PM | #17 | ||
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So far I have heard of fires , blown engines, dodgy gearboxes,not a good start for ranger .too low but that's a cheap fix .us operators could tell em all the extra junk on their utes made em drive like boats , good to see they have finally woken up to the fact . Still only patrol and the cruisers can claim any toughness
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