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Old 16-12-2005, 06:21 PM   #61
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Good move Holden. Like I have said in many other posts, competition is a good thing for us consumers. Again, if we look at this pragmatically, Holden have just upped the ante to Ford. So what are Ford likely to respond with? Upping the ante to Holden. If that means we all get 270kw 3V V8's and 300+kw FPV's then who's going to whinge?

For years Holden has pushed the bar on power levels in the v8's, and Ford has had to follow suit. In their respective research departments, Holden have been thrust into this position through legislation re environmental concerns, whereas Ford have thought that high fuel prices were to become a disincentive to V8's. In this particular instance, Ford got it wrong. But where we win is that Holden are now forcing Ford to react, which will mean an upgraded Boss motor.

In the end, Holden bring in the LS1.5, Holden lovers win, and Ford lovers will benefit from a Ford power increase.
Also, the extra players in the market like the 300C mean that we have nicer interiors, catchier exteriors to look forward to, as well as a lot more standard features. To use an old cliche; "Viva Le Competizione".
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Old 16-12-2005, 06:37 PM   #62
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It *could* be argued that GM / Holden are using their own developed and built transmission whereas Ford have had to use an outside supplier.

It is well known that the ZF is a very good box, but it doesn't automatically mean the GM unit is bad. The 6L80 is very similar in design and sophistication to the ZF and while the codename may sound similar to the older generation units, it is a brand new clean sheet design. From what I have read it also has a superior torque rating of 750Nm compared to 600Nm for the ZF.
There are many different version of the ZF trans. We get just two of them. BMW 7 Series V12 has 776nm with a ZF trans, so I would imagine that version would be able to hold atleast 800nm safely.

It definately will be interesting in the next few years to see how the 6L80 will stand up to the ZF.
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Old 16-12-2005, 06:56 PM   #63
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There are many different version of the ZF trans. We get just two of them. BMW 7 Series V12 has 776nm with a ZF trans, so I would imagine that version would be able to hold atleast 800nm safely.
Fair enough, I knew that there were higher versions of the ZF, but to keep it relevant I was referring to the version used in the falcon.

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It definately will be interesting in the next few years to see how the 6L80 will stand up to the ZF.
Sure will! And I can't wait. From what I have read so far, the 6L80 is good enough to be classed as a world class unit, so it should be able to stand up to the ZF very well.
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Old 16-12-2005, 07:34 PM   #64
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@YOOT,
Has the maxima gained any headroom in the past few years? I've caught a few maxima cabs (I try not to though) and have found myself bracing the ceiling. Not the most comfortable of rides home at 3 am.
(Genuine request for info, not poo-pooing what you were saying)
You also have a massive mohawk.
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Old 16-12-2005, 08:38 PM   #65
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WOW what a response, i am not stirring up anything here, i just thought this was a ford site. I did not realise we had people who loved/owned other cars as well on this site. Enough said, i am leaving this subject alone.lol :voldar02:
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Old 16-12-2005, 10:06 PM   #66
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WOW what a response, i am not stirring up anything here, i just thought this was a ford site. I did not realise we had people who loved/owned other cars as well on this site. Enough said, i am leaving this subject alone.lol :voldar02:
it is a ford site. :hihi:
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