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Old 15-12-2005, 07:10 PM   #31
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so if your not interested in beating your opponant, you can pretty much take your time?
Well if it's you against me i call it a headstart :
If they are driving a turbo VL it may take them 5 seconds to spool, but they still claim 9 second passes.
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Old 15-12-2005, 07:21 PM   #32
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Well if it's you against me i call it a headstart :
If they are driving a turbo VL it may take them 5 seconds to spool, but they still claim 9 second passes.
ahhhh i see...cheatin mongrels :
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Old 15-12-2005, 08:41 PM   #33
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ahhhh i see...cheatin mongrels :
Yeh slacko's, Ive seen them spool up for about 10 seconds sometimes.
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Old 15-12-2005, 09:52 PM   #34
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I take it to 3000, then slip the clutch out pretty quickly while feeding in a bit more throttle & hope to keep it on the edge of breaking into wheelspin. Not fantastic for the clutch but there you go. Got me a 2.25sec 60' with a stock engine, 1600kg weight and stiff 1 tonne springs. As for the burnout, given the wheels are sitting in water it doesn't take much to get them turning, I use second gear, about 1500-2000 revs and dump the clutch slowly if that makes sense, I don't just bang it out so it is a bit less harsh on the drivetrain.
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Old 15-12-2005, 09:55 PM   #35
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I do the burnout in 2nd gear, it has enough grunt to spin the tyres after a clutch dump at around 4500rpm, even on the normal road

Then launch at around 3500rpm with slight slip, then once moving drop it, and you will feel the back end squat down. Stock clutch isnt bad when new or using stock road tyres but once you start modding and getting sticky rubber they turn to shyte very quickly. I've still got the stocky clutch and the ute doesnt get much use because of it!
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Old 16-12-2005, 02:38 PM   #36
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The burn out is required to get the tyres up to ideal temp. depends on the day/conditions ect. I found a small ish burn out on street tyres worked best for me. I set the revs at about 3500rpm, held the throttle there, took up the slack in the drive line, last amber lightlet the clutch out with out moving the excelorator. wheels spin breefly, as soon as the start to hook up feed in as much power as you can with out breaking into wheel spin. Once i was in second just floor it. Picking a rev so as not to break into wheel spin is not only a good launch method for me but it is also becomes very consistant unless you get on the go go to soon and breaks into wheel spin.
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Old 16-12-2005, 02:53 PM   #37
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just get out there........................
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Old 16-12-2005, 04:49 PM   #38
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Thats how I learnt! :eclipsee_
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Old 16-12-2005, 06:46 PM   #39
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I ride the crap out of it,prob half way through first, if i dont it runs 13's just sits there spinning
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This may be true but I have only been to the drags twice and this was the first time in the falcon. I would have never had it worked out that well if i didnt get advice from mates. Asking questions and getting ideas to try definatly helps get things worked out much quicker.
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Old 16-12-2005, 10:27 PM   #41
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I ride the crap out of it,prob half way through first, if i dont it runs 13's just sits there spinning
You need to change your tyre and suspension setup, i drop clutch at 6500rpm and get NO wheelspin.
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Old 16-12-2005, 11:29 PM   #42
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Big burnout... , then sligh stalling up of converter, (1800-2000), then half throttle it just for the first bit then gradually jump on it more , as treads gain grip. Just needing slicks i think then i could just jump on it
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Old 17-12-2005, 11:56 AM   #43
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You need to change your tyre and suspension setup, i drop clutch at 6500rpm and get NO wheelspin.
I will try slicks eventually,The tyres were M/T ET streets (235/60/15)But the suspension has to stay mega stiff for the circuit, It is just too much fun, It will always be a compromise in this car but it's never going to be a drag only type car
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Old 17-12-2005, 03:46 PM   #44
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I see where your coming from Nugget, i had circuit suspension and drag radials that gave me 2.4 60ft with heaps of wheelspin at the track, i changed shocks and springs and put slicks on witch gave me 1.7 60ft.
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This may be true but I have only been to the drags twice and this was the first time in the falcon. I would have never had it worked out that well if i didnt get advice from mates. Asking questions and getting ideas to try definatly helps get things worked out much quicker.
Very true mate but the end of the day with practice you learn the feel get rhytm and get to know your cars characteristics, none of your mate etc can teach you that, thats something you will have to learn yourself.
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I see where your coming from Nugget, i had circuit suspension and drag radials that gave me 2.4 60ft with heaps of wheelspin at the track, i changed shocks and springs and put slicks on witch gave me 1.7 60ft.
That suprises me, I thought your 60's would be 1.5's the way you lift the front,wish I can do that with slicks.I want a big framed pic with the wheels in the air :evil_laug
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Old 18-12-2005, 06:59 PM   #47
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It would have been close to 1.5 but it was bogging down a little, the tounge plates seem to have fixed that.
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Old 18-12-2005, 11:38 PM   #48
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A little birdy told me that dumping the clutch in a BA is a great way of breaking CV's. Especially if you have a heavy duty clutch.
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A little birdy told me that dumping the clutch in a BA is a great way of breaking CV's. Especially if you have a heavy duty clutch.
In a sedan maybe, mate dump the clutch with a std clutch at the strip you can be asking for trouble.
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In the auto a stall as high as possible before wheelspin then let the brake go .If it doesnt spin tramp the sucker full throttle.
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