Ford Territory 2011

Herbie54 · 19-01-2013, 09:37 PM

Thought I'd share my experiences on my current model Territory. Purchased a Titanium RWD Deisel in March 2012. Primary reason was as a tow vehicle. My caravan is 1500kg all up weight and this Territory has a tow capacity of 2300kg with a Hayman Reece tow bar. I have used it to tow on 4 occasions and it does it easy. If you are looking at a tow vehicle for bitumen use this is the car. Very comfortable, fuel efficient and with heaps of power for those hills. I have had many cars over my 35+ years but this is the best one yet. Well done Ford on putting a diesel under the bonnet, you should have done it 5 yeas ago.

lockieoc · 19-01-2013, 10:01 PM

Yeah that motor really has completed the car. Can't really see any reason to want to own the petrol version.

spvd02 · 20-01-2013, 12:48 AM

petrol version is quicker, more responsive. Uses a bit more fuel, but this can easily be kept under control. I don't prefer the lethargic response & strangled feel of a diesel. Bit of a 1-trick pony really. Diesel is appealing in a way, but the petrol has more responsive/better performance all round. You can't deny, fuel economy aside, the diesel isn't really better at anything. It hardly produces more torque than the I6, and the power/torque band on the I6 is wider. If you can deal with a slightly higher fuel bill, the petrol is the better drive.

Not everyone will agree, of course, but just remember, fuel economy isn't everything.

malazn mafia · 20-01-2013, 01:03 AM

Is it possible to run Waste Veg Oil instead of liquid gold through that oil burner in the Territory?

**Polyal** · 20-01-2013, 08:58 AM

Performance and a Tez..hmm..not its intended function really...its a nice shopping trolley or tow vehicle.

chookaradley · 20-01-2013, 10:00 AM

Resale is poor on the petrol, good on the diesel. I bought a demo TS petrol for nearly 7 grand less than the equivalent diesel. I dont tow its just a family wagon. It would take many years of driving to recoup that sort of cost. The diesel is good, but I wouldnt totally discount what the petrol has to offer.

davcam · 20-01-2013, 10:08 AM

Looking at new Territory for similar reasons as Herbie45. Van is around 1600kg and currently tows ok with AU2 Fairmont. Leaning toward TX rwd 5 seat petrol. Prefer the look of base interior (dont like velour trim or chrome on dash of higher models). Also have option of lpg conversion on petrol model in future.

chookaradley · 20-01-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by davcam

Looking at new Territory for similar reasons as Herbie45. Van is around 1600kg and currently tows ok with AU2 Fairmont. Leaning toward TX rwd 5 seat petrol. Prefer the look of base interior (dont like velour trim or chrome on dash of higher models). Also have option of lpg conversion on petrol model in future.

If you tow id definately try and swing it for a diesel. Your talking 12/100km vs 20/100km. You would recoup the costs much quicker if you tow

Smoke Pursuit · 20-01-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spvd02

petrol version is quicker, more responsive. Uses a bit more fuel, but this can easily be kept under control. I don't prefer the lethargic response & strangled feel of a diesel. Bit of a 1-trick pony really. Diesel is appealing in a way, but the petrol has more responsive/better performance all round. You can't deny, fuel economy aside, the diesel isn't really better at anything. It hardly produces more torque than the I6, and the power/torque band on the I6 is wider. If you can deal with a slightly higher fuel bill, the petrol is the better drive.

Not everyone will agree, of course, but just remember, fuel economy isn't everything.

A run in diesel will just about keep up with the petrol to 100 km an hour. For me the diesel feels more refined then the i6. I'd buy a petrol at the right price though.

FPVF6X201 · 20-01-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Performance and a Tez..hmm..not its intended function really...its a nice shopping trolley or tow vehicle.

I beg to differ......mine when new cost $40k+ cheaper than the euros, and beats nearly all of them in performance.

F6X 0-100 5.9secs
Porsche Cayanne GTS?????? 6.0secs at more than double the price.

TheInterceptor · 20-01-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Is it possible to run Waste Veg Oil instead of liquid gold through that oil burner in the Territory?

Going by what i know that i was once going to do on my last diesel vehicle. Yes IF you filter the oil though a 2 micron filter (and a couple of other things), common rail new age diesels dont take very well to dirty fuels like waste veg oil, unless its cleaned and cleaned again. The norm with running waste veg oils is having the oil filtered though a 5 to 8 micron filter albeit thats what you would do for the non common rail diesels. Either way, its a bit more risky running CRDI engines on waste veg oil. They will have no problem at all running on vege oil of the shelf from Coles.

Rudolf Diesel invented the Diesel engine to run on vege oil on his farm. It just so happened to work on ULP by-product and thus its gone that way, and now far away from the likes of waste vege oil, the oil co's do not like people using alternate fuels...

There once was a bloke who sold vege oil kits, even had books full of good useful info. I tried to find the website so i could purchase a conversion kit from him a year ago and guess what. His website, any contact details and any information about the kits and such... it has all dissappeared. Cant even search up the bloke. Oh well, i dont have a diesel anymore so its irrelevent to me anyway.

Sorry to ramble on everyone.

As you were.

russxr67 · 21-01-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Is it possible to run Waste Veg Oil instead of liquid gold through that oil burner in the Territory?

Not something I'd do.

I have a mate that owns a diesel injection repair business and he reports that new age diesels do not take kindly to bio diesels. He has had a few people try it with disastrous results.

**Polyal** · 21-01-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FPVF6X201

I beg to differ......mine when new cost $40k+ cheaper than the euros, and beats nearly all of them in performance.

F6X 0-100 5.9secs
Porsche Cayanne GTS?????? 6.0secs at more than double the price.

I know the F6X is a ripper car but there would be no Tez at all if the business case was built on performance Territory's.

Fez WQ · 21-01-2013, 10:25 PM

if the rear seats split I would have bought one..... ( bought to Hyundai Santa fe Deisel )Ford look at your competition... rears seats need to split on seven seaters. We have a family of six and we can pack our stuff into one side on our holidays and shopping .... the territory you have no option seat up or seat down ----- Why NO split

lockieoc · 21-01-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spvd02

petrol version is quicker, more responsive. Uses a bit more fuel, but this can easily be kept under control. I don't prefer the lethargic response & strangled feel of a diesel. Bit of a 1-trick pony really. Diesel is appealing in a way, but the petrol has more responsive/better performance all round. You can't deny, fuel economy aside, the diesel isn't really better at anything. It hardly produces more torque than the I6, and the power/torque band on the I6 is wider. If you can deal with a slightly higher fuel bill, the petrol is the better drive.

Not everyone will agree, of course, but just remember, fuel economy isn't everything.

Well considering diesel makes up for 75% of Territory sales I would guess economy has something to do with it. But what ever floats your boat.

Dr Smith · 22-01-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spvd02

petrol version is quicker, more responsive. Uses a bit more fuel, but this can easily be kept under control. I don't prefer the lethargic response & strangled feel of a diesel. Bit of a 1-trick pony really. Diesel is appealing in a way, but the petrol has more responsive/better performance all round. You can't deny, fuel economy aside, the diesel isn't really better at anything. It hardly produces more torque than the I6, and the power/torque band on the I6 is wider. If you can deal with a slightly higher fuel bill, the petrol is the better drive.

Not everyone will agree, of course, but just remember, fuel economy isn't everything.

The diesel is actually more refined then the petrol model and does produce 49Nm more torque, the important bit being it produces peak at 1900rpm vs the petrols 3250. Having gone from a G6ET to the diesel I know a bit about the performance drop, lol, but in normal everyday, suburban/crawl driving it isn't lost and compared to the n/a I6 is smoother. Economy isn't everything, granted, however most buyers choose economomy over performance and Ford needs to sell more to the bigger buyer demographic. I actually also think once buyers get over the higher purchase price quickly, it's meeting the monthly repayments that takes over for the following 3+ years and you don't really remember that one type of fueled terry is $X more per month over the other. The only real issue you face constantly is that your range reading is showing 800km+ and that's only a positive. The great thing is we have a choice, my only wish is that the 3.0 V6 tdi is dropped in while my fantasy would be the new RR V8 Tdi, nirvana on wheels.